Thread: Setting bevel with Naniwa 1k

Originally Posted by Slartibartfast

arrgh!

i'm about to throw all these stones on the classifieds right now

Should have never messed with what worked....

What ston es and honing method have you been using.

Originally Posted by gary haywood

What ston es and honing method have you been using.

Dmt -> BBW -> Coticule -> nakayama

i used that progression it works well and its easy. I use dmt1200 4k 8k norton / or 5k 8k naniwa bbw sluerry then coti water works even better just 40 laps 5k then 20 8k.

Just take a razor and dull it and try your naniwas from 1k try i went back on a dovo tortoise and did a 3/3 1/5 1/5 then 10 12k laps naniwa 10 .5 diamond paste then just 10 cr.oxide stroppped test shaved after three pyramids and patients this razor was smoothest i ever had onestly i was surprised it mat take more time but at least i no theses naniwas are capable of creating as good a edge as the belgiums. i was going to sell mine but not now keep working with them don't give up you will see i spent all night on mine they load up quikly keep them clean by lapping them lightly or good rub with hand in between honing blade will glide perfect. i must of lapped mine 5 x each seriously i found the same with my norton once they had ben lapped a lot they were totaly differant especialy the 4k side i think new hones need bedding in.

Hmm....

So i was home alone and frustrated with the naniwa....

So with a beer in one hand and a slurry stone in the other, i went to town with my coticule.

Never done this before.. surprised how well it worked on the 2 test razors.

• dulled on a glass jar.
• Set bevel using slurry on coti(never done this before, surprised how fast it cut)
• Refreshed slurry and watered down on coti.
• Used coti water only
• Nakayama Water only
• linen/leather

So... I'm thinking maybe this naniwa needs lapped a few more times.. If i can set a bevel on a coti, i should be able to set one on a naniwa.

I keep waiting for that "WOOHOO" post.

I think do your best attempt and finish it to shave test. That will help recalibrate the thumb.

Originally Posted by kevint

I keep waiting for that "WOOHOO" post.

I think do your best attempt and finish it to shave test. That will help recalibrate the thumb.

I've tried and no luck. I think i am doomed to a world of loneliness because of this....

Just my viewpoint but I have yet to dull a razor on a glass jar or anything else before I hone it. I have enough trouble without creating more.

The best advice I got for learning the TPT was to use a fresh DE blade to acquaint myself with the feel thanks to Randydance. I still do it from time to time to refresh my memory.

I was talking with a honemiester that used to be around here in the past and he was telling me that sticking with two coticules and really getting to know them well over an extended period of time reaped great benefits for him here recently.

Just a thought, stick with it and learn the nuances and maybe you and that hone will start to click.

Dulling the razor is not a normal part of my routine. I am only doing it to test the bevel setting capabilities of the different stones.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Just my viewpoint but I have yet to dull a razor on a glass jar or anything else before I hone it. I have enough trouble without creating more.

The best advice I got for learning the TPT was to use a fresh DE blade to acquaint myself with the feel thanks to Randydance. I still do it from time to time to refresh my memory.

I was talking with a honemiester that used to be around here in the past and he was telling me that sticking with two coticules and really getting to know them well over an extended period of time reaped great benefits for him here recently.

Just a thought, stick with it and learn the nuances and maybe you and that hone will start to click.

Originally Posted by Slartibartfast

Hmm....

So i was home alone and frustrated with the naniwa....

So with a beer in one hand and a slurry stone in the other, i went to town with my coticule.

Never done this before.. surprised how well it worked on the 2 test razors.

• dulled on a glass jar.
• Set bevel using slurry on coti(never done this before, surprised how fast it cut)
• Refreshed slurry and watered down on coti.
• Used coti water only
• Nakayama Water only
• linen/leather

So... I'm thinking maybe this naniwa needs lapped a few more times.. If i can set a bevel on a coti, i should be able to set one on a naniwa.

What was the shave like of the coticule slurry to water like?. I have tryed this lots of times and i find it does'nt always give me sharpest of edges shaves but not like razor could. with more experiance and practice i have found light and realy ultra light strokes fine edge can be had.

Originally Posted by Slartibartfast

Hmm....

So with a beer in one hand and a slurry stone in the other, i went to town with my coticule.

WARNING!!!

One should NEVER hone while drinking.....

You might spill your beer!

Sorry - I know everyone is being serious here. My other remark was to use beer instead of water-- to take the edge off the stones.....

Seriously though, I have some Naniwas in the mail from SRD in order to satisfy my own sick desires. (not because of this thread)

I am intrigued by this problem. How many passes are being made on the Naniwas before all of this lapping needs to be done? I can't imagine the Naniwa 1K losing its shape or loading up that fast.