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09-02-2010, 08:22 AM #1
I only have the one J-Nat, a Nakayama Maruichi that I got from sebell in the classifieds, so I'm no expert on them but I love the edge mine gives so I'll share what I do.
I basically combined a couple of ideas I read here, the first from Bruno and the second from Glen. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
I go to the Maruichi from either the 12k Naniwa or 16k Shapton depending on which I've been using. I start out with a medium slurry and I do 25 strokes, then I dilute to a light slurry and do another 25 strokes, then go to plain water and do another 25 strokes.
Then I do something Glen mentioned (I think it was Glen) that he called "25 strokes to dry". What he said was wet the stone then wipe all the standing water off just leaving the finest film of water on there. Theres so little water the stone that it practically looks dry already. Then start honing and after about 25 strokes the hone is totally dry, then I just go to my daily strop and test shave. Basically just keep honing though until the stone is dry.
Without fail this gives me the sharpest and smoothest edges I've ever had, and the shaves are always pure velvet squeegee.
Hope thats of some help!
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09-02-2010, 09:22 AM #2
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Thanked: 13234That system works really, really well on the J-nats that break down the slurry and leave a better edge with that slurry going to dry then the edge off clean water... I'll be honest, that is a long shot that you have one of those Stu obviously does My Nakayama I was told to do that way too and it works..
If you have a Norton 8k it really works a treat, that was where I came up with the "Go to dry system" at..
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09-02-2010, 09:46 AM #3
I have a feeling you may be overhoning &/or using overly thick slurry. You don't say how fast your stones are but 200 passes seems an awful lot on razors that are "close." I don't know your stones so its just an assumption on my part.
Another way to finish is to use the lightest of slurries ie one that is not visible except for a slight cloudiness in the water on the razor. The stone should simply look wet. It is one step away from just using water but it will make a difference with some stones.“The white gleam of swords, not the black ink of books, clears doubts and uncertainties and bleak outlooks.”
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09-02-2010, 09:49 AM #4
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Thanked: 13234Good point Oz man I missed the 200 number when I read through it...
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09-02-2010, 09:51 AM #5
Yeah, 200 on some stones I've used would destroy the edge
“The white gleam of swords, not the black ink of books, clears doubts and uncertainties and bleak outlooks.”
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09-02-2010, 10:23 AM #6
Yeah, those 325 DMT's are pretty aggressive..!
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09-02-2010, 10:42 AM #7
Im expecting a Jnat soon.
Stu - you go from a 12K or 16K to the Jnat. Out of interest do you reckon that you could still get the same edge if you were to go from a 8K Nani say?
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09-02-2010, 11:01 AM #8
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Thanked: 2591The number of strokes is kind of high.
As Oz mentioned you are probably overhoning.
My rule of thumb when I test a new stone is, medium slurry 20 circles each way 10 x-strokes and test shave. Then depending on the result I adjust number of strokes and slurry consistency.
I have had only one stone that requires the use of jim's method ,all other (10 stones and counting) were much faster.Stefan
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09-02-2010, 11:31 AM #9
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09-02-2010, 04:55 PM #10
If your razor is already sharp, just try honing on your stone with a light slurry until it gets kind of pasty and dry. So basically just hone on that same slurry without dilution until it is dry. But you will need to experiment a bit to see what works best with your stone.
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