Thread: New hone question

Originally Posted by pinklather

Lynn drops a grenade in the imagination - very cool.

Nun2sharp mentioned using an escher slurry stone. I imagine a coti slurry would work also. Any other candidates for a slurry stone? I would think it needs to be of the donor variety of slurry stone, rather than one intended to raise slurry only by abrading the main stone.

I've used a ruby stone (synth ruby) to raise slurry on the c12k, but that just abrades the c12k.

'Sounds like several have posted about the hone as a platform for other abrasion media. Spyderco with diamond spray, c12k w/ slurry from other rocks, etc. So not every experiment will yield nuggets, but it's very cool to press for the discoveries.

Onimaru, is there a grit range for the synthetic nagura you would recommend?

This is very doable and a pretty inexpensive solution. It may not be the most consistent method, but it is not too bad. It would be cool if you guys who give it a try, report your findings in another thread. There are lots of alternatives out there guys.

Have fun,

Lynn

Does anyone know if the Norton prep stone is the same as the generic Nagura...?

Of course not the Norton one says Norton on the side :


seriously I buy whichever is less $$ and always have...

Originally Posted by pinklather

Onimaru, is there a grit range for the synthetic nagura you would recommend?

I think my mate gssixgun summed it up best. Cheapest is best

But seriously, there are a few different synthetic Nagura depending on how you acquire them . There is the basic King one that comes with their 8k stone pictured. I have no idea as to its grit. This is the one I have mostly used & can be bought separately.
Then there are the Nagura that are supplied with other brands & some may be quite hard or coarse for resurfacing purposes rather than slurry making. I have one that came with a Kasumi 220/1k that looks about 80 grit hehe. Never used the Norton one as it's too expensive in the land of Oz

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Of course not the Norton one says Norton on the side :


seriously I buy whichever is less $$ and always have...

Your a funny guy Mr. Six Gun....

two more quick questions:

Do all stones need a slurry stone? On SRD it mentions many just need a coat of water and you're good to go but occasionally I see some of you talking about using slurry on those same stones. Is a nagura a slurry stone?

Also, regardless of what I decide to buy I assume I'll need a flattening or lapping stone. I think this may have been asked already do I need a specific grit range or would I be safe with a 220 grit (for sale on SRD) with pretty much any stone I buy; for example a shapton 12 or 16K.

Thanks for the great responses so far. I'd like to try Lynn's idea but I'm not sure that would be the best idea when just getting started.

Originally Posted by ats200

two more quick questions:

Do all stones need a slurry stone? On SRD it mentions many just need a coat of water and you're good to go but occasionally I see some of you talking about using slurry on those same stones. Is a nagura a slurry stone?

Also, regardless of what I decide to buy I assume I'll need a flattening or lapping stone. I think this may have been asked already but I'm not exactly sure what Nagura is so in that case, do I need a specific grit range or would I be safe with a 220 grit (for sale on SRD) with pretty much any stone I buy; for example a shapton 12 or 16K.

Thanks for the great responses so far. I'd like to try Lynn's idea but I'm not sure that would be the best idea when just getting started.

This is a pretty big area of personal preference. I normally only use water with Naniwa, Shapton and Norton on my daily honings and usually when I finish on my Natural Stones these days, I only use water as well. Some people like a little slurry and obviously you need it with one stone honing on Naturals, but it's a fun area to play around with to see what you prefer.

Have fun,

Lynn

Originally Posted by ats200

Is a nagura a slurry stone?

Also, regardless of what I decide to buy I assume I'll need a flattening or lapping stone. I think this may have been asked already do I need a specific grit range or would I be safe with a 220 grit (for sale on SRD) with pretty much any stone I buy; for example a shapton 12 or 16K.

In general ,yes Nagura are for slurry making & can be bought with varying abrasive qualities. Didn't wanna say 'grit' ranges

If you get a diamond plate, like a DMT C, You can use it for flattening as well as creating a slurry from the stone you use it on. If you get a flattening 'stone' you are limited to just flattening or lappping.