Thread: My razors won't get sharp...

Originally Posted by RustyTorch

Please, tell me. What do bevels look like after the proper work on a 6000 grit stone? Should I be able to see stripes/marks (what do you call them in English?) with the naked eye?

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Stripes/marks on the bevel are called scratch marks/scratch patterns and they should get progressively less visible as you progress up the grit scale using higher grit stones. By the time you get past the 6000 grit stone, visible scratch patterns should be mostly gone. Others may differ in opinion but theoretically the fewer scratches, the sharper your blade will be. Read the WIKI>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Jerry

Originally Posted by RustyTorch

Please, tell me. What do bevels look like after the proper work on a 6000 grit stone? Should I be able to see stripes/marks (what do you call them in English?) with the naked eye?

Yes you will likely be able to see the stripes after the 6000. I think you may be able get rid of most of them after 8000. To get a really mirror finish you would need a final finisher. This may also help: Edges produced by various hones - Straight Razor Place Wiki

Thanks. Is that true that using artificial stones finer than 3000 grit is bad for razors? That it causes problems with burrs?

Originally Posted by RustyTorch

Please tell me what an edge looks like after the proper work on a 6000 grit stone? Should I be able to see stripes/marks (what do you call them in English?) on the bevels with the naked eye?

I think you're not paying attention. Nobody can tell you what the edge should look after you have been honing it on your hone. Nobody has neither your skills, nor your hone.
I gave you extremely detailed recipe to figure it out, which would work regardless of your hone or skills, but if you instead insist on a completely irrelevant answer just pick 'you should see striations', or 'you shouldn't see striations' and either would be just as relevant. Instead of wasting people's time you could do it with a coin flip.

Originally Posted by RustyTorch

Thanks. Is that true that using artificial stones finer than 3000 grit is bad for razors? That it causes problems with burrs?

It is false. You will have problems with burrs only if you do not use them properly.

Originally Posted by gugi

I think you're not paying attention. Nobody can tell you what the edge should look after you have been honing it on your hone. Nobody has neither your skills, nor your hone.
I gave you extremely detailed recipe to figure it out, which would work regardless of your hone or skills, but if you instead insist on a completely irrelevant answer just pick 'you should see striations', or 'you shouldn't see striations' and either would be just as relevant. Instead of wasting people's time you could do it with a coin flip.

Sorry for wasting your time. I had tried what you suggested long before your post. The pattern of the scratch marks definitely changed. Sorry for my stupid questions. You are so clever.

Originally Posted by RustyTorch

Sorry for wasting your time. I had tried what you suggested long before your post. The pattern of the scratch marks definitely changed. Sorry for my stupid questions. You are so clever.

Attempt at sarcasm won't get you too far. If you knew that the striations are from your hone, what exactly is the point of your initial question - yes they should be there because that's what your hone does?

Originally Posted by gugi

what exactly is the point of your initial question - yes they should be there because that's what your hone does?

That wasn't my initial question. I asked why my Welsh stone doesn't visibly affect my razor's edge. Other members assumed that one of the possibilities is mistakes with the 6000 grit stone.

Originally Posted by RustyTorch

That wasn't my initial question. I asked why my Welsh stone doesn't visibly affect my razor's edge. Other members assumed that one of the possibilities is mistakes with the 6000 grit stone.

Not really, you posted that you think it is a possibility right off the bat - your posts from right where you hijacked the thread are still right here.
I can't help you. I hone my razors to shave with them not to look at the bevels. If you want to know what my bevels look like you'll have to do the work yourself - I've posted them many times. Not that it'll help you, judging by how many variables you are omitting to consider.

My mind is going, hehe.

If you don't look at the bevels, how do you control the sharpening and honing process? If the scratch marks don't seem to begin to vanish after 2 or 3 hours of honing on a natural stone - what am I to do? In which direction should I dig?

What 'welsh' hone are you using? For example, is it a Llyn Idwal, A purple slate, a green slate, a Dragons Tongue (sold by Inigo Jones), a Grecian Oilstone (which is an LI variant) a Llyn Melynllyn (also called Yellow Lake Oilstone) etc.

Regards,
Neil