Thread: The Famous/Infamous Norton 4/8 "JaNorton 2012"

I've not joined in this. I have read the thread and it made me hone my silver wing TI. With my 4k/8k. Mine has been cut down the centre. So its only 8x1.5, i gave the other half away. I soon set the bevel with some half strokes. then i did 50 very light x strokes on the 4k. std 20 on the 8k. stropped and probed with usaul hht. I then did another 5 very light strokes on 8k. stropped and probed. I did another 5 very light x strokes on 8k.

Shaved this morning. I started out with norton4k'8k and i no the 8k can deliver a very nice shave. all though as a beginner i was very hit and miss. The shave of my silver wing this morning, was with out a shadow of dout as smooth as you'd ever need. The smoothness and shavability is as good as it gets. If i did not no any differant i would of thought the edge was finished on a 10k 12k, not rough at all and very silky smooth. I will shave of this razor for a while. I may just add 5 laps extra before each shave and see what the 8k is realy capable of. the edge is more than good enought for me . It will be interesting to see what differance a thew laps on a finisher would make... I carn't imagine a great deal. But i can see why peole have shaved of 8k norton, and had no problems..


gary

How did I miss this learning experience and challenge?

First I need to find a clean un-pasted strop.
I have gotten quite fond of my now grey canvas and
very dark leather. That good stuff CeOx stuff is almost
addicting and the self generated steel swarf just makes it
better.

Are folk going to hone once and only strop for the rest
of the month? Are folk pondering ways to notice
a light roll or dulling of the edge that triggers a revisit to the 8k
only or both 4k/8k as needed. As a shaver not a honemaster
I use the 8k a lot more than the 4k.

Some great stuff on here already. Thanks gents!

Well tried my first shave with the 4/8 "harmonie" razor tonight and much to my surprise it wasnt bad at all. I am over the moon with that result considering its the first ever honing I have attempted. I have to thank Glen so much cos if it wasnt for him I would never have tried any honing. Hats off to you master.

Finally can I ask you guys what is the best next step in order just to tweak the razor a little? A few X strokes on the 8K or just shave a couple more times with it and see how it goes?

The bengal is next for honing.

late post but started on the first.

Razor 1, 6/8 BELL razor. Razor 2, 6/8 Can't Be Beat. both in an ivory evening jacket both with a gentle smile

razor 1, honed on 4k light slurry to water pigtail sweeping X's and on 8k light slurry untill it was greay, refreshed slurry and diluted to water, rinsed hone and honed very lightly untill the 8k was damp.
this produced a suprisingly comfortable and close shave.

razor 2, honed 4k only water untill there was a decent amount of swarf, rinsed and honed for 30-40 refreshing water every 10ish strokes, repeated on the 8k.
this gave a sharp edge and a close shave but was a little harsh.
I took it back to the 8k and light slurry diluted to water with sweeping pigtails produced a much smoother shave but may need a little tweaking.

oh, the stroke is a combination of the sweeping x (Gssixgun) and the pigtail stroke from the Irish Barber (Liam Finnegan)

ps, please add me to the List Glenn, KalgoorlieBoi/Donald

Originally Posted by niftyshaving

...Are folk going to hone once and only strop for the rest
of the month?...

No way! I'm learning too much, I'm going to keep going until my 5/8 razors are 3/8 razors...

Seriously though, I may take the W&B back to the 8k on the weekend, it was a nice shave with it (better than the previous attempt, which was also quite good) but I noticed some scratches on the edge under the magnifying glass that i think the 8k will remove. If not, it's back to the 4!

Good stuff Gary!!

The 8K can be dialed in pretty nicely with either one or two 1-3,1-5's using the 4K/8K pyramid finish or even just 3-5 no pressure X strokes one or two times.

Thanks

Originally Posted by gary haywood

I've not joined in this. I have read the thread and it made me hone my silver wing TI. With my 4k/8k. Mine has been cut down the centre. So its only 8x1.5, i gave the other half away. I soon set the bevel with some half strokes. then i did 50 very light x strokes on the 4k. std 20 on the 8k. stropped and probed with usaul hht. I then did another 5 very light strokes on 8k. stropped and probed. I did another 5 very light x strokes on 8k.

Shaved this morning. I started out with norton4k'8k and i no the 8k can deliver a very nice shave. all though as a beginner i was very hit and miss. The shave of my silver wing this morning, was with out a shadow of dout as smooth as you'd ever need. The smoothness and shavability is as good as it gets. If i did not no any differant i would of thought the edge was finished on a 10k 12k, not rough at all and very silky smooth. I will shave of this razor for a while. I may just add 5 laps extra before each shave and see what the 8k is realy capable of. the edge is more than good enought for me . It will be interesting to see what differance a thew laps on a finisher would make... I carn't imagine a great deal. But i can see why peole have shaved of 8k norton, and had no problems..


gary

Gentlemen, I had the most amazing shave right off the Norton a couple hours ago.
I looked at the edge in the scope before the shave and did see more scratches than I like, so I gave it another
"20 laps to dry", and the edge looked waaay finer. A lot more polished.
And it really did the trick. The edge was sharp and very smooth, like impossibly smooth for a 8k edge!

I believe I've seen the light!


By blix72 at 2012-01-03

So todays honing session was 20 laps on the 8k, then 50/100 on a Illinois #827

BAM, a top 10 shave at least.

Hey all so i have a Norton Prep stone question....is anyone using it to make a slurry?? I watched in glen's video he made a while back that he used it and i went ahead and experimented with it but it didn't really seem to do what i think it should it seemed to "gum up" no matter how went the 4k was. should the prep stone be soaked as well or what else could i be messing up? it seems to drink any amount of water i have on the 4k thanks!

I picked up an Artificial "Nagura" Stone from Lee Valley, which I'd intended to use to raise the slurry on my 4k/8k.

Is this in line with JaNortan specifications? I see you state we should not use a special nagura. Hopefully, this evening will allow me enough free time for honing.