Thread: The Famous/Infamous Norton 4/8 "JaNorton 2012"

Where does one get this latter list soap? I would like to give it a try.

Since this isn't on topic and bordering on inappropriate commercial activity outside of the vendor corner, I'll PM you that information

This reminded me of something i heard as a technique used before concerning lather and stones. Does anyone have experience with using something other than water on the surface of the Nortons? (And by other I mean soap shaving cream lather, not oil) Has this been something that people have found to provide better or smoother polishing while honing?

Well Ja/norton participants, i got 2 more shaves since my last update, no honing, just good stropping maybe a little agressive,
but overall good smooth shaves, no iritation, no stinging with alum and witch hazel. Stropping is king! i really feel like both razors
improved with good agressive stropping, by agressive i dont mean with preasure i mean more then usual but the results speak for themself. I dont really think i can improved at the moment with doing more honing, its sharp, its smooth,i could easily shave with these results without any problems. So i continue to doing stropping only see how long the edges will last. Stropping regiment
is like this 40 linen 40 heavy draw leather, 40 fine almost no draw leather!

Originally Posted by Martin103

So i continue to doing stropping only see how long the edges will last.

Should be interesting to see what your reaction is if you keep using one blade until you find it dull and then switch to the other, still sharp blade, and then wonder how you ever managed to still use the dull razor :P

Originally Posted by fragalot

Should be interesting to see what your reaction is if you keep using one blade until you find it dull and then switch to the other, still sharp blade, and then wonder how you ever managed to still use the dull razor :P

I did a similar experiment this week. Starting Saturday morning with no stropping. I ended up doing 5 shaves without stropping before the strops hanging there called my name. The shave was still OK but more skin irritation. I then did 25 on the fire hose and 25 on the Latigo, smoother.

I think that I am different than most here because I shave because I have to not because I want to. Keep that in mind with my next theory. If I get a 7 day set and shave with each 4 times, I should only have to strop about once a month!

Tim

Originally Posted by georgephillips

This reminded me of something i heard as a technique used before concerning lather and stones. Does anyone have experience with using something other than water on the surface of the Nortons? (And by other I mean soap shaving cream lather, not oil) Has this been something that people have found to provide better or smoother polishing while honing?

Just to try something different, I started JaNorton with one of my razors (WM Elliott) finished on the 8k side with lather. I didn't notice any benefit to the edge and it actually seemed to slow the stone down quite a bit (I did my normal finishing routine and It needed about 2.5 times as many laps on the lather to get it where I wanted it).

Originally Posted by 32t

I am getting more that you have to compete one step before moving on. If you don't have a good 4K the 8K isn't going to work well. I don't see any posts that say that the 8K is the perfect edge but most say it is good.

I think that maybe the terminology is misleading. For example 'finishing stone". You can finish on a 1k if you want. I think they should be called refining steps. I say steps because I would include pastes, strops, etc.

The edge is set at 4Ke 4k level. [I am open for arguments about 1k!] Where you choose to stop refining and "finish" that edge is your choice.

Although it can be bette8Kthe 8k is not a bad place to stop.

Tim

As with all things, opinions differ. I don't like the shave edge off my 8K. Can I shave with it? Sure. Do I want to when I can push MUCH better with a higher stone? Hell No!!!! I can drive with my feet but that does not make it a good idea. for me I much prefer the edge I get off the 16K shapton.
That being said I believe my edge's are better now that 8Kpush my 8k farther then I used to. Some razors i bevel set on the 1K, some on the 4K. Some even on 220!!!! It all depends on the razor.

Originally Posted by Str8Shooter

As with all things, opinions differ. I don't like the shave edge off my 8K. Can I shave with it? Sure. Do I want to when I can push MUCH better with a higher stone? Hell No!!!! I can drive with my feet but that does not make it a good idea. for me I much prefer the edge I get off the 16K shapton.
That being said I believe my edge's are better now that 8Kpush my 8k farther then I used to. Some razors i bevel set on the 1K, some on the 4K. Some even on 220!!!! It all depends on the razor.

To each his own, but are you sure you pushed the 8k edge as far has it will go is my question!!

Originally Posted by Martin103

To each his own, but are you sure you pushed the 8k edge as far has it will go is my question!!

the simple answer is yes. I have been honing long enough and after using the 8K as a finisher I am confident I have gotten all but what maybe Lynn or Glen would get with it. I can get a nice three pass shave off the 8K. I much prefer the 12K or 16K edge. In some cases I go higher but that is only on a few razors out of 126 that are in rotation. Razors like case and other new york/american steel that have a higher rockwall. Also my razor that was made by Kenny Powell in A2 steel is another that likes to be pushed farther with the Cr Ox after the 30K shapton.