Thread: True Honing ?????

I was talking to a friend who is new to SR shaves and bought a razor off fleabay. He said the razor had been True Honed like I would know what he was talking about. He said their web site says they use True Honing and its a patented process. He couldn't remember the seller's name. Has any of the experienced honers on here ever heard of this method or is it a gimmick?

Sounds like a pile of eBay bullcrap to me.

Yeah. It's a B.S. marketing term meaning "I finish razors on a Japanese stone"

I'd like to know the patent number.

Ah yeah, that's from the same 'master' with 'decades of honing experience' who came to SRP a couple years ago wet behind the ears having absolutely no idea about razors and honing. I think he ended up getting banned from every shaving forum out there as well.
Yeah, the same person who made a whole website with fake stories and feedbacks on his honing from supposedly 'happy customers'.

Unbelievable what people would do when they can't compete based on merit alone.

I know of the guy - a consumate liar and spreader of that substance that emanates from the rear ends of bulls. He is currently making a great nuisance of himself on the Artisan Shaving website. I even found recommendations for his website made by - wait for it - himself. Of course, the recommendations were made by one of his earlier incarnations before he decided to call himself 'Master Lee' (which was promptly dropped after an enormous amount of ridicule) in a futile attempt to obfuscate self-promotion. He is in his third incarnation now as just plain old Lee.

Regards,
Neil

To be frank its a piece of good marketing in so much as you are trying to put your product across as offing something above and beyond the competition. Almost every business does that, i.e. no business ever says - hey were all much of a muchness we are no better than them but then they are no better than us either. In most circumstances that is the case but the public will tend to put their faith in the person who states their own abilities the loudest.

The reality though is that True Honing is just a gimmick and there is no reason for his edge to be superior to any other experienced honer.

Master Lee? That sounds like a lot of Hoglahoo to me! LOL

Originally Posted by Jeltz

To be frank its a piece of good marketing in so much as you are trying to put your product across as offing something above and beyond the competition. Almost every business does that, i.e. no business ever says - hey were all much of a muchness we are no better than them but then they are no better than us either. In most circumstances that is the case but the public will tend to put their faith in the person who states their own abilities the loudest.

The reality though is that True Honing is just a gimmick and there is no reason for his edge to be superior to any other experienced honer.

I agree that it is a piece of marketing, but reserve judgement on whether or not it is good!

Yes, almost every business seems to opt for some form of hyperbole these days, sadly, but that is not the issue I have with that particular individual, Nic. What gets me is that everything in his explanation of the 'True Honing' (sic) process is what all honers do. So it is obviously not to deceive the experienced, in which case it is aimed squarely at the novice and in my honest opinion it is treating them all as 'suckers' from the 'decades of experience' that really amount to a few years, to the 'patented system' which is about as patented as my backside and all the other semi-scientific waffle indulged in.

I also find it slightly insulting to my intelligence - but then I suppose if I read cr@p in the first place, thats my fault.

Regards,
Neil

If I accidentally use his technique will I be accused of patent infringement?

I tried this place for honing, before I was able to connect some of the posts here to him. His service was fast - as advertised but I didn't get the "True Honing". The edge was no better or worse from other people who do honing (vendors). I did NOT find that his edge was "sharper" than my others - just as good. I am not trying knock him nor promote him, just giving my experience... Your friend may get a serviceable edge which, off of the auction site, is not common.