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    Having just finished restoring this razor I have run into a problem honing it
    There is a dip at the toe end of the razor which I have been trying to hone out using a Naniwa 400 grit hone
    It seems I will have quite a wide bevel in this razor if I continue in this way
    I may end up with a wide bevel anyways as my honing skills are not so great
    Some pics are attached which I hope will show the issue properly
    So the question is should I risk bread knifing the blade or not
    Thanks in advance for any advice

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    Breadknifing isn't really risky. Your blade has a frown, and it needs fixed. I wouldn't say breadknife it, but do some (100+) strokes on a DMT with the spine barely lifted off the hone. Pay attention to what your doing, and stop when the razor edge is perfectly straight from heel to toe...Better yet...Don't stop til it's smiling at you.

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    I would only breadknife it if I was going to make a sub with Italian bread.
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    Yes , I think you should breadknife it . It will be a good learning experience . If or when , you finally re-establish the bevel , you will know why you shouldn't have breadknifed it , in the first place .
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    Mate, the alternative to breadknifing is to put three layers of tape on the spine until it is the shape you want, then take two off and hone as normal.
    Remember that it will take some time to set the bevel this way - a lot less than if it were breadknifed though.
    The other method is to bring it over and we can work on it together.
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    My amatuer advice;
    1. it's hard to see the edge, better close up pictures, if you can.
    2. I would not breadknife to even the height of a bevel, only a seriously "chipped" edge, even then, some of the Pros here frown upon a breadknife action for any reason. If your edge is not seriously damaged, I would reset the bevel with circles on a 1000.
    3. your tape looks worn down (thru), this will start to raise the height of the bevel. One slice of tape does not get me through a difficult bevel setting and onto shave ready.
    4. I have razors with high bevels from prior owners, but my edge is even & the shave is smooth.

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    I don't worry about the prior wear on my spine or bevel height, I just hone and use.

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    Two things here
    #1 pics are done in such way that it is hard to tell what exactly is the problem. I was looking for a frown, which is the usual candidate for bread knifing, and did not see one.
    #2 Bread knifing the whole edge to fix the toe curve ? IMO that is not necessary. All you need to so is lift the razor off the hone when you are doing the x stroke when you get to the tip. Another option will be rolling x stroke.
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    Dont bread knife it, you will only increase the work needed astronomically. Use a low grit stone and do the usual type of strokes, use tape to protect the spine and keep the roll handy because it is going to take a while.
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    Gave it some time on the DMT 325 hone and still a ways to go yet
    Then my mate called me on Skype and said he will come and have a look at what the issues may be
    You just have to love this place with the amount of helpful people here
    May get this one sorted out soon all going well

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    Your problem: the toe of your razor is worn more than the rest of it, and you want a perfectly straight cutting edge on your spike point hollow ground razor.

    The solution: if you hone it with the spine elevated, you will remove material on all other parts of the razor, except the toe. By doing it this way, you will save yourself the work of doing a complete bevel re-set. But this can be a PITA. If you know what you're doing, setting a bevel on a full hollow is a cake walk, and I'd bread knife away... Don't do it on a wedge though, unless you want a workout...

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