Thread: How sharp do you like it?

I like mine... Sharp? I dunno, I'm with the other guys on here that isn't quite so simple. I can tell you that I use a Chinese barbers hone to maintain my edges. It's estimated to be about 12k grit. I say estimated because its a natural stone so it's hard to tell for sure. My best advice is either go with what the guys on here tell you to go with, or try different stones until you find what you like.

Originally Posted by mdarnton

Well, since you know everything already, no further comments are needed, right?

WOW!! Just WOW! Talk about having a chip on your shoulder.
That type of post is really helpful on a forum I guess.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Let's see if I can explain it using an anology that many here will understand...

You are what we call in some forms of martials arts (in dojo japanese) "Jukyu Sensei" Or "Student Teacher"

When a Black Belt of one style steps into the Dojo of another to learn the second style a few things can happen..

1. They accept that they are starting at square one and learn the new art, using their pervious training to excel at a slightly faster rate then a rank beginner..

2. They let their ego take over and not let go of the fact that they know nothing of the new style, and refuse to learn the new ways.

3. They try and teach their old style to the people of the new Dojo, continuously trying to convice them of their old arts superiority, and never learn the fine points and nuance of the new style...

Transitioning from sharpening tools to razors is not stepping into a new "art" (sharpening is just a skill btw), and I don't feel my method is any better than yours sixgun. I've seen your videos, and I don't doubt your honing skills.

What you are saying would be more analogous to me making my first guitar after years of making furniture, and then trying to tell Mr. Darnton something about lutherie. I don't have that kind of chutzpah.

It's important to know when a blade is sharp, but it's also important to know when a horse is dead.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Let's see if I can explain it using an anology that many here will understand...

You are what we call in some forms of martials arts (in dojo japanese) "Jukyu Sensei" Or "Student Teacher"

When a Black Belt of one style steps into the Dojo of another to learn the second style a few things can happen..

1. They accept that they are starting at square one and learn the new art, using their pervious training to excel at a slightly faster rate then a rank beginner..

2. They let their ego take over and not let go of the fact that they know nothing of the new style, and refuse to learn the new ways.

3. They try and teach their old style to the people of the new Dojo, continuously trying to convice them of their old arts superiority, and never learn the fine points and nuance of the new style...

Thank You Gentlemen for proving me right



#1

Originally Posted by unit

I have probably sharpened several miles of edge over the years including some pretty exotic super steels used in high end knives and competition choppers.

With all this "knowledge" of edge working, I scoffed at razor honers and their "sacred religion" just like some others. I tossed their advice to the side and restored three razors (with frowns, rust, and badly shaped bevels). I was able to repair them with ease and hone them back to a slight smile with ice uniform bevels that shaved my face as comfortably as any of my beautifully honed knives...which is to say QUITE uncomfortably!

I quickly figured that all these guys spouting about how comfortable and close their straight shaves were probably were not smoking crack, but rather were onto something I had not yet learned.

Behold!!! After over a quarter century I had NOT learned everything there is to know about honing...what a concept!!!!

#2

Originally Posted by mdarnton

Well, since you know everything already, no further comments are needed, right?

#3

Originally Posted by TonyFranciozi

Transitioning from sharpening tools to razors is not stepping into a new "art" (sharpening is just a skill btw), .

There ya go Ace been wanting to use that emoticon

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Thank You Gentlemen for proving me right

For someone who doesn't like criticism (comments disabled on youtube vids, really?!), you sure know how to dish it out.

Sit down in front of the TV, tune to a few good shows, learn how not to patronize people for offering up views different from your own, and then get back to me with what you figure out.

I'm closing this for now...I think we've seen enough!