Thread: How sharp do you like it?

You ended up at 12k with a chipped and wire edge, Yes I read yer thread...

Going higher then the Naniwa 12k will probably not get you anything especially if you harshed it

Going a different direction from the 8k might get you a different feel

SR's only get so sharp, Period... going higher in grit can't get them sharper

For quite some time 8k was and still is an acceptable shaving edge...that should answer your question. The rest IMO is to see what we can achieve towards the ultimate sharpness and comfort. You can go as high as 30k or further, doesn't mean it's gonna be the edge for you.

My edge is good now.

now please, what grit.......what grit man!!!

Also pretty sure my edge got that way from my manly thick beard...i can scratch glass with these whiskers

Originally Posted by LikesBBS

My edge is good now.

I seriously doubt that, your edge might be corrected of the damage but I doubt you have found the end of the 12k yet


I realize you think there is some secret we are keeping from you, but I promise there is not...

Originally Posted by gssixgun

I seriously doubt that, your edge might be corrected of the damage but I doubt you have found the end of the 12k yet

Most likely correct, but I've only just begun mr sixgun....only just begun.

grit? anytime soon? or more roast?

the Shapton 30k is the highest grit proved hone

CBN is the highest grit proved paste

Originally Posted by LikesBBS

LOL, well... where did your pocket books guide you.

Mine ended at a 12k, yet to see if it's worth it to go higher.

Be straight with me now... none of this kung-pow moderator guru mind stuff, heh gangin up on the newb

Ok then some mentor gangin' if you do not like the mod gang
Smooth is more important than super sharp. You can't get smooth @4k , it will not be comfortable shave, the edge is also not sharp at all by shaving standards. You will start to get smooth @8k with some paste action added, at that level you will start to get close to good sharpness.
At 12k you are there as far as sharpness to aim for and the smoothness is a matter of preference what hone you like best.
After that it is a bit of a spoil fest I guess, you can go on synthetics 16k, 20k, or 30k, or you can go on naturals, personal preference for sure.
Super sharp edges can be something that works or something that breaks the deal, sometimes super sharp = harsh feeling, also a bunch of cuts as the edge likes to easy bite into the skin.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

the Shapton 30k is the highest proved grit

which you stop at? or do you like lower? And I thought shapton 30k was equivalent to a .5 paste so .25 would be sharper/harsher ?

I stopped at a $1000 hone, thereabouts. Each time I use it I estimate I use something like 0.001% of the hone (maybe 0.0011% if I use slurry). So that's about 1000 * 0.0001 = 1 cent.

I shave off a 1 cent edge.

In all seriousness though, it really isn't as simple as "highest grit". It also has to do with pressure, and what happens on the hones of lower grit leading up to that final grit, and the razor itself. Sure, when things settle down and you become a consistent honer, then the final finisher may make a difference. But until that time there's probably more variation in your day to day honing than there is between your hones.

As has been said before, you can have the highest grit hone available unto man, but unless you have it right at the beginning (bevel), all you have is a really nicely polished bevel on each side. If those sides don't meet at a fine enough point, even a $20,000 super duper Jnat won't help you. This is known as the "polished turd effect" in the scientific literature.

James.

Originally Posted by LikesBBS

Most likely correct, but I've only just begun mr sixgun....only just begun.

grit? anytime soon? or more roast?

You're missing the point I believe...like anything else with this sport, there is no definitive answer...it boils down to whatever works for you. For some 8k is enough, others want to push it further...but it boils down to skill level. So to give you an answer you're looking for, for me I'm happy with 15k. But next you can ask about naturals where grit can be truly undetermined...so again, where does it end?