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04-19-2012, 01:14 PM #1
Georgetown G20
So in my haste to look for a scuttle I thought I was going to have to make a decision between a well built well glazed G5, or a more functional Dirty Bird. Much to my surprise the very week when I was going to purchase Georgetown introduced a new bigger scuttle, the G20. This made my decision a no brainer, but I was still a bit concerned about its functionality. At any rate I purchased it and was quite surprised to see it ship out the same day, and recieve it within 4 business days (though I do no think that is the norm).
I have some previous experience doing pottery on a hobby basis, and me and my wife usually go up to the N. Ga mountains and go pottery shopping once every summer as well. So I consider myself able to to judge the stuff to some extent, but certainly no expert. The build, finish, and glazin on this scuttle is excellent IMO. Looks very durable and well built, I got the green and purple orbie color which is very nice looking as well. Big question here now being will it be able to get hot and stay hot...
Only have one shave with it so far, but it was excellent. It built lather very well with the ridges and nibs in the bowl, honestly the fastest lather I have built so far, but I am a noob. The bowl was a little smaller than the cappucino mug I have been using, but still plenty big to build a nice lather. The scuttle itself was a nice size too, I would say the size of a tea pot, or a small 6-7 cup coffee pot.
To heat it up I put hot tap water (my tap is hot, don't know the temp but you can't leave your hand under it) in the bottom portion and bowl, capped it and threw my brush in before my shower. Got out re did this step and stropped my razor. Simply poured out the water in the bowl, not refilling the lower portion, and started lathering. I got nice warm lather for my two passes, which is all I have been doing, I did however leave the lather out and did my post shave aftershave and balm to see how long it stayed hot. The lather was still warm and the ceramic of the scuttle was very warm as well as the water that came out of it.
I will wait a week or so and make another post after I have some more shaves with it and can asses it better, so far I love it though.
What I don't understand about complains on the G5 is people saying the bowl is too thick so that your water cannot get the lather warm. You are trying to get the ceramic hot to then warm the lather, which is the only function of the water in the first place, warming the ceramic. Which ceramics will hold heat much better than water. If the scuttle is capped the only way for heat to escape is to dissipate in the ceramic and then into the air from the ceramic. So you want to get as much heat as you can in the ceramic without having too much surface area for the heat to dissipate from. I would say it is more of a water to ceramic weight to exterior ceramic surface area deal. The issue with smaller scuttles in general would be that you have high surface area and not enough water capcity. So by increasing the size you get an exponential increase in water when compared to a smaller increase in surface area. If there is a thinner ceramic (ie dirty bird) you get quicker dissipation into the ceramic, but also quicker dissipation out into the air from the ceramic..... though if the walls are thicker and the bowl is thinner you would see more heat dissipating from the bowl than from the sides, thus putting more heat into the lather. In addition if it cant hold enough water to get the ceramic warm without refilling it numerous times, it would not work for most users..... Maybe I am over analizing this lol
Would really like to try a Dirty Bird and even a Moss at some point to compare, but it will probably be a good while until I could purchase another scuttle, seeing as how my wife would kill meLast edited by JordanM; 04-19-2012 at 01:16 PM.
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04-19-2012, 03:27 PM #2
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Thanked: 194wow, I can't believe you got your g20 already! I have put an order in but have heard nothing from them yet. I had a moss and a dirty bird and a g5....the g5 blew them away in my opinion!
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04-19-2012, 04:10 PM #3
If you took a scuttle and put it in a microwave or oven to heat it the thick walls would keep it warm a very long time. However, you can't do that (or at least they say not to). So you take a scuttle with thick walls and put hot tap water in and the heat is simply used up trying to heat those thick walls which also acts as an insulator and barrier. Thin walls heat much faster while still staying warm a long time. They way I think of it thin walled scuttles are best for tap or even microwaved boiling water while thick walled ones do best with very hot water or some type of pre heating. I can only tell you I have the G-5 and it simply does not last very long. My Oskar scuttle by comparison keeps the lather warm forever with simple tap water. It is a function of water quantity and wall thickness. It will be interesting to see how the new Georgetown holds up. They certainly are lookers.
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04-19-2012, 04:16 PM #4
We need pics!!!!! A new scuttle, and no pictures?
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04-19-2012, 05:24 PM #5
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Thanked: 14I have the G5 and the process I use is:
With very hot water wet the entire outside, fill base, and bowl, then empty.
Refill base and bowl let stand while I shower.
After shower empty and refill base. I then rap the G5 in a towl to retain heat and make my lather.
The lather remains warm for 3 passes.
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04-19-2012, 05:31 PM #6
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Thanked: 194I should be receiving my g-20 soon. I got an email letting me know it shipped today!!!!! I will post pics immediatly upon arrival
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04-19-2012, 06:04 PM #7
I will try to get some pics soon, I have barely had time to shave with it let alone take pics. I'm actually kinda thinking I got the one in the picture on the site as it looks very similar... will have to investigate!
Big - I guess my thoughts essentially boil down to a smaller scuttle being somewhat destin to fail in comparism to a larger regardless of wall thickness. By increasing the size you naturally get much higher water area increase than surface area increase, letting you have more heat and less dissipation. In addition to just thickness, surface area should play a role, and thinking even further the type of clay and even type and thickness of glaze would come in to play most likely with a smaller effect though. If there is not enough water in the pot to get a thicker wall hot before the cold air outside dissipates it, you have a loosing battle, if you have enough hot water on the inside to heat a thicker wall it's a win win. Eh who cares, lets just get a blow torch
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04-27-2012, 07:17 PM #8
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Thanked: 15Well:
I do have a Sara's texan Moss Scuttle and let me tell you it works perfect. It maintain the hot water for a long time and you can put either creams or soaps.
K
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04-29-2012, 08:55 PM #9
We need pics!!!!! No pics no scuttle, so We need pics!!!!!
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04-30-2012, 04:16 AM #10
I have a GTP G5 as well, It's in my closet somewhere. Mine doesn't hold heat at all, even with the cork, which I thought was cool. Maybe there are differences from Scuttle to Scuttle? GTP did offer to take it back.