Love it, Thaeris :)
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Love it, Thaeris :)
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Wawick, circa 1820 (still have to fix these scales...)
(But then again, the previous owner did love stub tails, the whole set was comprised of 5 rasors marked I to V, this one is V , I also have III and IIII )
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The old Frenchie, thin blade, and believe it or not, bone scales in one piece.
This one is set for restoration soon : early Dumas Ainé
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Oh, yeah! That looks like VAGUE alright. Which is definitely NOT one of the Sheffield makers.
Also, because I am still waking up, my brain didn't register what you were asking.]
Here are the ones I thought were from Germany:
http://theshiveringbeggar.com/wp-con...55f9bea7de.jpg
The one on the bottom is a standard 7/8 Sheffield for size reference.
http://theshiveringbeggar.com/wp-con...7ae83c257c.jpg
They don't seem to be tempered, or to have been honed, and there's been kind of a lot of these running around on eBay. My current guess about them is that they were Victorian-era stage props, patterned after real 12-15th century razors. But research on them is at an impasse.
I'm more of an 18th Century Material Culture guy than a razor guy per se, but would love to find as much information as I can regarding razors dating before 1790. You guys might find these French illustrations of interest. Aplogies to all if they're old news. First two are from 1769, third is 1727 and last is 1772
In France the razors without tail have been produced almost up to the end of the XIX°, they have called "rasoir pour perruquier" (razors for wig-maker).
When I first saw the tailless French razors I found it very odd, as if they had forgotten something. The evolution of the English razor to the defined tang, longer tail, and curved scales all contributed to the ergonomics and safety. I wonder how many shavers split their thumb pad on those early blades with no separation between cutting edge and tang ?
I've shaved a fair bit with one of those. Knowing about the edge, I always hold it differently -- using the Perret form, pinching the sides. My guess is folks probably didn't cut themselves holding them, simply because that's the way razors worked then. It's having learned to put our thumbs under the tang that makes us want to do that! :)
Couple of stub tails recently acquired:
Scargill:
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Unknown (any information would be greatly appreciated!):
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I have a Scargill like that here & also has "Old English" on the spine.
From the 1774 G&M, Georgius Smith, from Scotland (in Sheffield). Mark simple 'G. Smith'
Beauties!...
Yeah, the last one's a beauty !
I'd have a look, also, on what is behind it ;)
I have a tiny thumbnail bio of Thomas Scargill on this page (including a newspaper ad for Scargill 'Old English' razors).
There's not a whole lot of information to get on him.
I love that second razor yardie! I've been looking to acquire an old one in that style.
I really want a pre 1800 blade. My oldest is a 1830-1837 W&B With a hand etched masted ship on the blade with detailed rigging, crew etc. I wish it would photograph better.
Yeah I know I'm prolly pushing it with this one...but it is easily my pride and joy.
(Pre-Butcher) 'Magnum Bonum' Wade in Mammoth Ivory:
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[QUOTE=yardie;1455217]Yeah I know I'm prolly pushing it with this one...but it is easily my pride and joy.
(Pre-Butcher) 'Magnum Bonum' Wade in Mammoth Ivory:
That's beautiful Yardie! I love the way you did your scales if it was you that made 'em! If not I still love it!
I don't believe my calloused Banana-Grabbers are capable of such fine exquisite work...it was another very skilled member that did this incredible restoration for me.
Not showing very well at all is the 'Magnum Bonum' on top of the spine, the etching was faint but definitely visible.
My Newest one, a Au Paris, possibly araound 1780 (if anyone knows something more, please tell me) with selfmade Hornscales with Lead Wedge (im not professional in making scales but i guess they look just OK).
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[QUOTE=Rockabillyhelge;1455983]My Newest one, a Au Paris, possibly araound 1780 (if anyone knows something more, please tell me) with selfmade Hornscales with Lead Wedge (im not professional in making scales but i guess they look just OK).
Looks good to me. Great job!:tu
Just looking at the blade through the scales, it looks pretty old around that time.
More 1815 - 1830 than 1780 in my opinion.
Too much work for a 1700' razor.
Oh, didnt thought that it could be so young :-/
The Original Scales were made of Ivory with big hemispheric rivets, similar to your Razor in Post 324 here in this Thread:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...ml#post1351346
According with Thaeris: epoch "Restauration". 1814-30
The big hemispheric rivets has been used for long time in France.
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epoch "Premiere Empire" 1804-14
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the form of the new scales is not correct (too much big and too much rotundas):td
this form would be more correct:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...ml#post1438011
Thank you for the Pics, they make it easier to me to date it :-)
Well, i know that the form of the scales isnt historical correct but well, im no scalemaker and its better than no scales.
Maybe if i find some old scales or a good plate of bone or ivory i give it a try and make some othe scales for the blade, but
until then im only happy to be able to shave with it :-)
Jonathan Wiltshier,
cutler at 8, Long Lane, Smithfield (London) from 1832 to 1847
5/8" wedge, transparent horn blond scales
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Here's my John Barber Pre 1823 Straight Razor W/Spanish point. It was in 1823 when Barber was granted his Masonic trademark. Barber had cautioned the public against fraudulent razor's being made using his name but I suspect this is the real deal with the wide tang & scale inlay.
[QUOTE=gooser;1466489]ANGRES " CAST STEEL"
Those scales are different.................cool!!!!!