Also picked this James Johnson the other dayAttachment 167347
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Also picked this James Johnson the other dayAttachment 167347
A really old frenchie, Jury.
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Freshly restored, not honed yet.
H. Rotton c.1820-30 (punch "crown GR")
handle in horn with inlay, 4/8" (with thickness of the spine 3mm), trapezoidal section.Attachment 171645
any information on the manufacturer "H. Rotton" is welcome
Fixed the broken scales, I tried to salvage as much of this old razor as I could. Attachment 171759
Finally, I think i have one that belongs here! Cheapest of the razors I found in the wild also!! $8. And untold gallons of gas on the hunt!
Wood scales, look to be iron pinsand brass washers.
As Found:
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Any one know who the P heart is?
~Richard
It looks a lot like my pair of P* Samuel Norris. The P is exactly the same.
I don't know if he also made a P<3...
Nice catch Richard! I think the scales could be original ...
I'm pretty sure it wasn't Norris. None of his listings use the heart symbol. Here's the 1774 Gales & Martin entry for Fox & Norris:
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The only mark I can find that I think is a good match is Jonathan Pitchford, but the way it's presented in the book makes it unclear if he was using two different marks (as many did) or a single mark incorporating all the elements.
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I've definitely seen Pitchford razors that are P(heart)ford. It doesn't seem out of the question that P (heart) could also be his mark, but I wouldn't count on it!
My poor little razor with P on it, If wishes were horses, beggars would win the Santa Anita!
When I went to strop for the shave, the toe edge crumbled. The toe of the razors ( now two) have not enough remaining support to hold an edge. My take is that the reason the razor was retired is that it refused to hold an edge anymore. The rest of the blade from 1" back is a hair popper.
It will look great with Renwax and placed in a shadow box.
Cheers
~Richard.
previous post #95 and #97
http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...havers-10.html
It sure was nice seeing that razor in person. Good catch! :)
I hate to point out the obvious, but not only is the heart too small in relation to the letter, but it is the wrong way up, and all (that's a lot!) of the Jon Pitchford razors I have seen and read about have had 'Ford' on them, too.
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Above: detail from a post here, earlier this year.
In fact, in his book Tweedale says words to the effect that the 'P' and heart with the word 'Ford' was granted as the corporate mark, so I think it highly unlikely that 'Ford' would be left off. The reason for the P and Heart being presented with the Ford in that Sheffield Directory in that particular manner is to present the P and Heart the right way up, whereas the granted corporate mark has them lying on their sides in relation to 'Ford'.
Regards,
Neil
A few recent ones. Hague, which I have not yet had time to research, but my first thought is that it is of English origin.
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And a Sheppard, courtesy of Lummus.
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Here is one of mine. Havent seen one like it.
And another.
I have some old stubbies here. The first one says maybe Sheffield on it or "Shenield" or something else. It could be two "F"'s so closely together or an "N" or "M". It is crudely stamped. It might be pre 1800's but do not know for sure. The second razor says Larissa, Acier Fondu & the third razor says Kippax on it which is pre 1800 & dates possibly to 1787. My resources do not have anything or not enough history on these so any extra info would be greatly appreciated.
My pride:
" Espagne Acier Fondu " and " Pipe " , both made in Sheffield, scales made of cow horn pressed in hot dies . Iron washers have the same design, slightly diferrent domension.
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[QUOTE=SRmanufacture;1399339]My pride:
" Espagne Acier Fondu " and " Pipe " , both made in Sheffield, scales made of cow horn pressed in hot dies . Iron washers have the same design, slightly diferrent domension.
The Espagne not a French razor?
I have a newer, I thought French.
Maybe Kent Charles? The heart is sadly not in the right angle...
"from Directory of Sheffield 1787"
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I think "do." stands for Doncaster, which is in the direct neighbourhood of Sheffield
Kindest regards
The marks are very specific, the heart is in the wrong direction.
Don't know much about razors but I have a Sheppard cast steel as seen in this photo. Could you tell me the approximate date it would be? Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks. Greg
The photo was posted by ScienceGuy on page 34. Thanks
Here's a W Greaves I got off the bay a few weeks ago but have failed to show it here. It is a rather old one & deserves to be in this club.
My guess is late 1700's, early 1800's
Thanks! Does the "Cast Steel" put it in any type of date range itself? Reason I'm asking this is that I would like to use if for a 1770s hair and shaving display for a British officer during the American War for Independence, but I want to make sure it would pass. I know the overall shape is pretty good. Thanks for your help.
The mark 'Cast Steel' is generally considered to be what superseded 'Acier Fondu'. The changeover seems to have happened around 1780-1790, so that places the razor later rather than earlier.
A British officer would most likely have had razors issued from an upscale London firm (who probably bought the blades from Sheffield). My half-informed guess is that there were a handful of companies with the contract to produce razors for government use.
The blade shape is probably more or less right -- there were other shapes made at that time as well -- but the scales would likely have been ivory or tortoiseshell -- at least in my opinion.
Thanks so much for the information. It is greatly appreciated! How available are earlier 18th century razors?
A friend of mine got this one :
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(Yes, I know.. I tried but he doesn't want to sell it..)
Zak, weren't you waiting for some oldies from Germany ?
Wow that's a beauty! The scales look original too. Too bad he won't let ya get it from him!!!