a new razor
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a new razor
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a John shepherd restored
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Magnificent...
Both of the above razors are amazing. Do you guys shave with them?
it came today.
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Great looking stubbies. I especially like the "pipe" razor as I and others have a similar razors (posted to this group). I see these occasionally now and still am not sure of its maker. Probably not a Wostenholm as others (and myself) have suggested including museum literature. Manah has suggested a William or John Birks who were late 18th century cutlers who used a similar straight stem clay pipe as their logo. Great find and enjoy! ajkenne
awesome razors everyone :) I love these clubs...It is great to see all the hidden gems of everyones den's. These razors remind me of the boxer dogs lol
I get more ... I love it .... raise with Nakayma. I think it is my best Razors. Thanks to you all. We love this razor. 10 generations. When I meet in heaven, the first owners of them will say "thank you that's what you mean Razor treated so well.
sorry,ranslator
Here´s my contribution to the club.
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All but one is from my to do box, in need of some care but the steel is good and I think all of them will shave, when I am up for the challenge of honing one of theese oldies.
The one to the right in the top picture is a great shaver, the rest of them needs a couple of hours :)
Sadly most of the manufacturers name has been worn off.
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If you look closely, it is possible to see PEN*(maybe an E and an R) This (with some imagination) could spell Hibbard Spencer & Co,Straight Razor Manufacturers and Dates of Operation that first used the name Spencer in 1865. http://www.thckk.org/history/hsb.pdf
Sadly, This doesen´t match the date on this razor :banghead: since all evidence points at a pre 1800 razor.
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So after all this I´m back to square 1. :cry:
Just received delivery of two more razors today, and I think this is where they belong :)
Earlier one first - not been able to find anything on this, 'Byatt Warrented'. By looks alone it could be in the 1790-1810 period, but hopefully someone here will have an idea or two for me!
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I absolutely love it! Will be cleaning up and sending off for pro-honing - not going to let my hit and miss honing loose on it yet!
tbc...
...cont
Second razor is a little later, maybe 1810-1830, and it intrigues me - Taylor is a known name, but which one! My problem is there are so many Taylor's manufacturing razors in the 1800's, and that's in Sheffield alone. Again, I'm sure someone will know!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56...1/P1060399.jpg
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Apologies for the image heavy post, hopefully as this is a club for these then you'll appreciate them!
If you think I'm miles out with my periods, or know something specific about either of these then I'd love to hear it.
Cheers
P
i have restored my Smith Warranted......
it was verybroken
IproposetometoGermany. they say, a culturalloss
you understand me....
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Just wanted to add my newest shaver to this thread!
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It is a Brookes & Crookes wedge with a nice size: Going from 7/8 at the heel -> 8/8 at the toe!
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The edge needs work, and I have already polished out most of the small spots. What's left is mostly patina, and I don't think I want to remove it (lack of tools/lack of time...)
Nice wedge:
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And jimps on the bottom of the handle:
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I will make a new set of scales when I have figured out how to make a new insert for the pin-hole. The scales will be a light walnut me thinks.. :D
- Morten
Uhm... maybe, but it seems very good quality black horn to me... my turtles have different colors :D
I'll try and take some better pictures of them - they have a variety of different colours from black through turquoise, and also have 'graining'Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauri
They don't look like horn I've seen previously, and not sure I've seen any genuine tortoise or turtle shell before, so it could be. They are in pretty good nick given the age.
Hi PaddyX21,
here is an example of one of my tortoise shell scales razors:-
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Hope this is helpful in identifying your scales.
Unless of course, those are dyed horn (which is what I think they are) :argue:
Magpie,
do you have a photo of a tortoise shell scaled razor?
I just did some reading to find out more if infact my razor is dyed horn or shell.
Check this SRP link :-http://straightrazorpalace.com/razors/46041-tortoise-shell.html
It has a definition of shell by JimmyHAD who quotes a definition from a dictionary, which then seems to be contradicted by Croaker with information about what genuine shell texture should be.
Quoted from the dictionary definition:-
"tortoiseshell, horny, translucent, mottled plates covering the carapace of the tropical hawksbill turtle. The plates, too thin for most purposes in their original form, are usually built up in layers that are molded or compressed after the surfaces have been liquefied by heat; thus, a firm union is effected after resolidification. Inlays can be imbedded in the shell with a hot iron. Tortoiseshell has been used in veneering since ancient times; its chief use today is in the manufacture of toilet articles and decorative objects. It is imitated in products of celluloid and horn, but the laminated structure of most genuine work aids in identifying the real shell."
More reading:-
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...yN4gwWoy8Ld-Zw
eBay Guides - TORTOISESHELL Real or fake How to tell the difference
"Horn as a turtle shell substitute.
Long before legislation was introduced to protect the creatures turtle shell was considered a luxury product. Only the most expensive combs and vanity items were made from it. Therefore cheaper items were made in other, less expensive materials.
One of the first materials to simulate shell was horn. Since horns are derived mainly from various breeds of cattle, the horn working industry was a bi product of the meat industry. Butchers had no use for the horns which were therefore available free or cheaply to the horn workers. Before it could be made into plates suitable for cutting combs the horn required much arduous preparation. In the early 19th century this was done by hand. However by the late Victorian period preparation of horn was largely mechanized in manufactories.
A visually beautiful material in its own right, horn can be subjected to many of the same decorative techniques which are used to adorn turtle shell. Like shell it has natural thermoplastic characteristics which enable it to be shaped and moulded. It can also be stamped, engraved, painted upon and carved into designs of breathtaking lacelike delicacy. However the chief use for which it was employed throughout the 19th century was as a substitute for the much more expensive shell.
One of the processes used to prepare the horn for working was that of clarifying. Having been boiled to remover its natural colouring horn could then be stained in various ways. Adding nitric acid to the boiling water produced sheets of a pale translucent yellowish amber which made it a suitable substitute for the so-called blonde variety of genuine shell. This yellow hue also produced a credible base which could then be subjected to the various painting and staining techniques which simulated the natural mottling of genuine turtle shell.
Picture 6: Horn hair comb simulating tortoiseshell.
Some of these stains were applied with great skill. Without close inspection the material can pass for genuine shell, and even experienced dealers and collectors have been deceived. However, a closer examination will reveal that the mottled effect has been painted upon the surface. It does not go completely through it, as is the case with natural turtle shell.
Picture 6 shows a late 19th century horn hair comb which has been stained and painted in this manner to resemble tortoiseshell. This example has been nicely carved and pierced. However held up to the light the mottled effect does not have the characteristic three dimensional quality of genuine shell. Place this comb side by side with one of real shell and it is not difficult to tell the difference."
As this stage I think I would agree with you that this razor and others that I have are infact dyed horn and not tortoise shell!
Just for the informative nature of it, do an online search for early tortoise JEWELRY. Needs to be colonial era, almost all else is horn (and often mis-marked)
The coloration, translucence, and textures are rather different from horn. I myself have never had the pleasure of a true shell razor, but I have held some super fancy necklace/pin combos!
I have a new Razor......It is because of the very old form. certainly before 1775
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here my new.....
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Two new ones today.
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Very early SCARGILL. Probably around 1810. I don't think it's ever been used.
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R. WADE / WARRANTED. W P W scratched into the scales, really neat decorative brass collars. Prolly somewhere between 1810-1818.
if only we could identify all the old manufacturer.
It's sad.
the good old knife and no one knows where. I have 23 razors
You shave very well. Others I do not want.
Here is my submission for this group.
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Great...
what kind of scal material?
looks really nice
Beautiful scales. Similar to the originals in shape and design, yet so different. Kept the original collars. Great restore on a fine, no name stubbie. That is a classic, thing of beauty!
Thanks fellas. The scales are thicker than original, but that blade is thin and I wanted thicker scales to provide a better protection for the blade. The spacer I am going to replace because I am not happy with it, its quartz and I wasnt ready for how difficult it is to work with on a small piece. I am thinking of using a piece of amber, which works easier. The collars actually look MUCH better in person, I just suck at taking pictures and they look a little like poo.
Hier is my Gallery with stubs-Tail Razors