Thread: Japanese Straights

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

yes, and a Gillette mach razor is a Kamisori in Japan too. So what does that prove?

A traditional Japanese razor is what we here refer to as a kamisori and it is but it is a subset or type of kamisori if you want to be technical.

You know like the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.

Dude I get what your saying , it doesn't change the fact that these kenwa razors are known as symmetrical kamisoris be it traditional or not, I have another kenwa that's asymmetrical and it's folder that's probably not traditional either

I have heard the term Western Grind Kamisori many times.
What is the definition of Kamisori? I thought it translates to 'Razor'?

The powerful OZ will tell us.....

Originally Posted by sharptonn

I have heard the term Western Grind Kamisori many times.
What is the definition of Kamisori? I thought it translates to 'Razor'?

The powerful OZ will tell us.....

It does translate to razor , that said folks are arguing over the traditionality of what is a quote unquote kamisori. I did learn something tho traditionally a tradinal Japanese asymmetrical kamisori is bimetal hard steel forged to a soft iron back. you could have a asymmetrical kamisori and if it is monocore it is not traditional!

Well, All razors are different....somehow!

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

yes, and a Gillette mach razor is a Kamisori in Japan too. So what does that prove?

A traditional Japanese razor is what we here refer to as a kamisori and it is but it is a subset or type of kamisori if you want to be technical.

You know like the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.

What I've found on the kenwa check the pic , even if you don't agree it's interesting none the less

I was only half kidding about the "sombrero." Often foreigners to a term or product improperly use or translate words and form them to their own meaning...like the sombrero de charro which is the proper term for what we north of the Rio Grande know as just a sombrero. Does the fact that we use their language wrong make us right in naming things incorrectly? I mean, c'mon. Even you who will NEVER admit they are wrong (you know who you are...or sadly maybe you don't ) can't say yes to that.

Add to that that language is a fickle mistress. When I lived in California in the 80s the Mexican guys I knew called each other "cuñado." I asked them what it meant and they said "It doesn't translate. Literally it means brother in law but that's not what it means. It's like homeboy. It doesn't mean the same in Spanish as what you mean in English."

Originally Posted by Axeman556

What I've found on the kenwa check the pic , even if you don't agree it's interesting none the less

I wouldn't read too much into it. It's just the brand name.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

I wouldn't read too much into it. It's just the brand name.

Did you read the translation on the last page I put up , I'm assuming it's monocore yasuki from what I can put together from that

Yeah I did & it's still unusual to use hard steel for the whole razor. Is it Yasuki yellow , white, blue ?

Originally Posted by onimaru55

Yeah I did & it's still unusual to use hard steel for the whole razor. Is it Yasuki yellow , white, blue ?

That is unknown at this time, I'll have to dig in a lil deeper.