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    Legion, are you sure they both show the same stamp ?

    To my humble eyes, ScienGuy's one wears a crown whereas yours definitely shows an ermine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inoe View Post
    Legion, are you sure they both show the same stamp ?

    To my humble eyes, ScienGuy's one wears a crown whereas yours definitely shows an ermine.
    I'm not sure. This is a close up of the stamp on mine.

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    There was a change in the 18th century for the marking of french knives and razors. At the beginning was marked the name of the city (guild of the corporation) and the nameless stamp of the cutler. Then at the end of the century the name of the cutler followed by his stamp and eventually the city. This habit will continue in the nineteenth and twentieth century. The razor Scienceguy is older than this one
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    Hello gents, found myself flipping thru the posts here, and figure I'd post some objects of interest to the thread.

    First up: A Derby, Silver Co. Shaving scuttle, with matching brush.....All Original.
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    The only information I found, designates it to be Pre.1898. (Stamp mark)
    The company began operations in 1873. I searched for pieces like this one with no luck, so I assume it was made special, for a private individual.
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    Next is a 1800s Packwood,I recently restored. Nice shaver..! It had no scales when I got it, so I made a set from bubbinga.
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    And for last: A Hague. Acier-Fonde.
    I just finished restoring this one, in time for a new years day shave, and loved it so much, I used it again this morning.
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    Thanks for looking, hope y'all enjoy.
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    Last edited by outback; 01-03-2018 at 03:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    Hello gents, found myself flipping thru the posts here, and figure I'd post some objects of interest to the thread.

    First up: A Derby, Silver Co. Shaving scuttle, with matching brush.....All Original.
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    The only information I found, designates it to be Pre.1898. (Stamp mark)
    The company began operations in 1873. I searched for pieces like this one with no luck, so I assume it was made special, for a private individual.
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    Next is a 1800s Packwood,I recently restored. Nice shaver..! It had no scales when I got it, so I made a set from bubbinga.
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    And for last: A Hague. Acier-Fonde.
    I just finished restoring this one, in time for a new years day shave, and loved it so much, I used it again this morning.
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    Thanks for looking, hope y'all enjoy.
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    I have seen a few of the Hague razors like that. Very nice job, love that style of razor. I wondered if they were made by Staniforth, Parkins, & Co. It was in the Gales and Martin 1787 under pen and pocket knife.
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    Don't know that much info, on stuff this old. I'm more about restoring, and using such items. I can't say for a fact, but out of 160+ razors I have shave ready, the Hague is the oldest, and maybe my best shaver.

    New years day, was the first time I've ever shaved with a blade like that, and it was awesome. Kept thinking about the signing of the deceleration of independence, and who actually shaved with it before me.
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    Forgot I bought this one a while back. It will need new scales and some light work, but I think it is the father George Smith. So it maybe a bit older than 1770. Any Smith experts have an idea.

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    What do you think of this razor. the "spain" mark is normally owned by Ann Rowland, but is marked B Robinson on the back. I did some research; there is a contemporary cutler of the same name, but he lived in Oxford
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    Quote Originally Posted by lohar View Post
    What do you think of this razor. the "spain" mark is normally owned by Ann Rowland, but is marked B Robinson on the back. I did some research; there is a contemporary cutler of the same name, but he lived in Oxford
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    Ah! Welcome to one of the more difficult families to research!

    Well, actually, the Robinsons are easy.

    Benjamin, who made your razor, was freed in 1830. His mark, 'Heart' Spain, was passed to his son Jonathan in 1757.

    That's it. Your razor was really, truly, actually made before 1757.

    The Rowlands are the complicated ones, and that begins in 1760 when Sleigh Rowland buys the mark, presumably because Jonathan Robinson died. What's the relationship to Jonathan Robinson? None that I can find. How did Ann end up with the mark by 1774? Probably because Sleigh died.

    Unfortunately, there were sometimes as many as 4 different Sleigh Rowlands running around the area, all cousins. That era of Sheffield did not do a great job of recording women. There were several different Anns (not to be confused with the Anne or the Anna), so I can't be sure if the Ann Rowland who used that same mark was a wife or sister of one of the innumerable Sleigh Rowlands.
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    I did a doubletake because that looks dead like a Robinson that I have:

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