Thread: Nazi blades

I think you are mixing up perspectives. Those of victims and perpetrators in particular. Ask Koreans how they feel about Japanese flags. Or the Congolese about Belgian ones. Or native Americans about... errr...

Apart from that, the visuals we used were top notch. From logos to uniforms via Triumph des Willens and Fest der Völker - never before, and never afterwards (with the possible exceptions of Imperial Stormtroopers and the Ministry of Paranormal Warfare), has mass killing looked so dapper.

Someone once remarked that the German nation's potential to fall from grace was particularly high. Not just because they were highly developed (since we're here, Solingen 1 : Sheffield 0), but also because they were latecomers to the imperialist party. While the former can quickly be argued away as a Herrenmenschen argument, the latter is quite true, and when the Versailles Dictation was added to the mix, you got German engineering at its worst, clad in one of the best corporate designs ever invented. None of this can explain all of the fascination, but some, if not most, of it.

Keeping Nazi insignia at home as a commemoration of what might happen in an entirely different country one day? I think I'd rather stick with this funny #grammarnazi logo

Originally Posted by Bazz

heres a couple I came across a while back , thought Id add them to this thread
this first one looks genuine to me ...but in reality i dont have a clue
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this next one looks fake ... looks to be Russian/polish ? not German so I couldnt imagine a german soldier carrying a Russian razor , but again Im guessing
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I would imagine they have a very high value in the right market after all they are part of the most historic piece of social history ever, I once owned a few gottlieb hammesfahr solingen foch razors I know they produced the very beautiful decorative daggers and swords for the Waffen SS.

I for one do hold the same animosity towards to Japanese symbols , because they were as brutal In Their extermination and cruelty , I just think that since so many hate groups( skinheads , kkk , white supremacy groups, use the swasticka it gets recognized with more publicity, but I don't believe that the Japanese crimes are any less remembered. Tc. By the way if you want to buy a fake then buy it,, I don't believe the craftsmanship matches most German products

Originally Posted by RobinK

I think you are mixing up perspectives. Those of victims and perpetrators in particular. Ask Koreans how they feel about Japanese flags. Or the Congolese about Belgian ones. Or native Americans about... errr...

Apart from that, the visuals we used were top notch. From logos to uniforms via Triumph des Willens and Fest der Völker - never before, and never afterwards (with the possible exceptions of Imperial Stormtroopers and the Ministry of Paranormal Warfare), has mass killing looked so dapper.

Someone once remarked that the German nation's potential to fall from grace was particularly high. Not just because they were highly developed (since we're here, Solingen 1 : Sheffield 0), but also because they were latecomers to the imperialist party. While the former can quickly be argued away as a Herrenmenschen argument, the latter is quite true, and when the Versailles Dictation was added to the mix, you got German engineering at its worst, clad in one of the best corporate designs ever invented. None of this can explain all of the fascination, but some, if not most, of it.

Keeping Nazi insignia at home as a commemoration of what might happen in an entirely different country one day? I think I'd rather stick with this funny #grammarnazi logo

Interesting perspective, but everyone knows that the British and Commonwealth pilots who won the Battle of Britain all shaved with Sheffield blades; hence, victory was assured.

Originally Posted by celticcrusader

I would imagine they have a very high value in the right market after all they are part of the most historic piece of social history ever

I wouldn't be quite so sure. After all, this happened. Sic transit gloria mundi - you cannot even trust the mentally impaired any more.

Originally Posted by Phrank

Interesting perspective, but everyone knows that the British and Commonwealth pilots who won the Battle of Britain all shaved with Sheffield blades; hence, victory was assured.

I can already see history books being rewritten all over the world.

That said, and jesting aside, are you sure? I mean, yes, Bengall and Cadman. But at that point in time, I would be mildly surprised if they hadn't also been using Solingen blades. Or something else entirely. Gillette comes to mind, as well as ASR. I wonder if there is any documentation about shaving utensils as part of your soldiers' kit.

Originally Posted by Cangooner

(sorry - can't resist...)

Yup, one of the most frightening things about the rise of the NSDAP was the ease with which they slithered into power, concentrated supreme power in the hands of one man, and then went on from there. In many ways it was so banal and gradual that many people didn't realize what had happened until it was far too late to do anything about it. This speaks to many issues raised by this thread, particularly the value of preserving the symbols and artifacts of the past - however hateful and hurtful - in order to preserve our collective memories and hopefully prevent such developments in the future. But as Bob noted in many countries the FAR right is on the rise again, and many moderate, and by 'moderate' I simply mean 'not extreme', people are worryingly complacent about them. From friends casually sharing posts on Facebook from the EDL, BNP, and UKIP (apologies but as someone who lived in the UK for six years, my examples are all from there) without thinking about what their over-simplified memes are actually saying and how they contribute to the spread of the casual racism, scape-goating, and xenophobia that marks extreme movements, to governments implementing laws based on division and fear of the 'other', it is possible to note more and more similarities to our present time and those past times when extreme movements came to power.

Anyway... the rise of the NSDAP is an absolutely fascinating subject and is one of my favourites to teach. Lots to sink one's teeth into.

UKIP is by no means a far right political party - it's main aim is independence from the European Union. It does have a stance on the level of immigration - one that would be recognised by many Americans who are concerned with the same issue.

From my perspective the straight razors I have seen in this thread are either fakes or a form of "trench art" . I think that had a straight razor been produced in Solingen with Nazi symbols adorning it then the workmanship would have been of a much higher order and probably more ornate. I could see an issue razor possibly having something like a waffenamt stamping much like the British/Commonwealth broad arrow stamp on issue items.

I don't think it is much of a secret that by the time WWII rolled around the use of DEs was overtaking the use of straight razors. So during the time period of WWII it is quite likely quite a few types of razors were in use either bought privately by or were issued to military personnel on the Allied side.

WW2 Provost Personal Kit

I don't know who designed the various German WWII uniforms but I imagine it would be difficult to look bad in a uniform produced by Hugo Boss. Mind you some did manage to look like a pig dressed for the ball even at that.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

From my perspective the straight razors I have seen in this thread are either fakes or a form of "trench art" . I think that had a straight razor been produced in Solingen with Nazi symbols adorning it then the workmanship would have been of a much higher order and probably more ornate. I could see an issue razor possibly having something like a waffenamt stamping much like the British/Commonwealth broad arrow stamp on issue items.

I don't think it is much of a secret that by the time WWII rolled around the use of DEs was overtaking the use of straight razors. So during the time period of WWII it is quite likely quite a few types of razors were in use either bought privately by or were issued to military personnel on the Allied side.

WW2 Provost Personal Kit

I don't know who designed the various German WWII uniforms but I imagine it would be difficult to look bad in a uniform produced by Hugo Boss. Mind you some did manage to look like a pig dressed for the ball even at that.

Bob

A Canadian veteran, friend of mine who was in the Pats, joined up the the late 50's, told me surprisingly that they were all issued the Rolls Razors...he even remembered the clamorous, "slap, slap, slap" sound resounding through the barracks as everyone honed the blade for their shaves...

Originally Posted by Phrank

A Canadian veteran, friend of mine who was in the Pats, joined up the the late 50's, told me surprisingly that they were all issued the Rolls Razors...he even remembered the clamorous, "slap, slap, slap" sound resounding through the barracks as everyone honed the blade for their shaves...

Imagine that racket in the communal barracks wash place and you with a tremendous hangover. The powers to be must have had a sadistic streak to issue those noise makers.

Bob

I don't know if these were ever issued to the Canadian Militia as it is not marked with a broad arrow stamp. I bet more than a few were bought privately by militia members who could afford to do so.

Bob