Thread: Nazi blades

Originally Posted by Hirlau

I bet that if you pulled 30 random kids from their high school classroom, ,, no more than 5 would even know what the Swastika emblem was,,, & ,,,, I bet no more than 8 could tell you what a Nazi was,,, that's the real problem today.

As someone from Hong Kong, all of the Swastika symbols I've seen at temples, schools, etc, have all been reversed. One of my friends from India has also said they are reversed.

And although not quite what you were talking about, there's a thing called goldwins law which states that, the longer an Internet argument goes in for, the higher the likelihood of someone comparing their opponent to Hitler/ Nazi.

Originally Posted by Amenrab

...And although not quite what you were talking about, there's a thing called goldwins law which states that, the longer an Internet argument goes in for, the higher the likelihood of someone comparing their opponent to Hitler/ Nazi.

All heil to that - er, I think I meant hail!

Regards,
Neil

The Swastika icon has been used by many, many more cultures and people prior to the Nazi Party adopting it.



This shot of a Native American Basketball team and the link attaching to an article written by Robert Baden-Powell (of Boy Scout fame)
Baden-Powell: "What Scouts Can Do--More Yarns" pretty much demonstrate this insignia had a revered history prior to the Nazis turning it into an abomination......

I agree greed with your quote wholeheartedly. Any historian will tell you the if we don't remember history than we are bound to repeat it. That's the reason we have the Holocaust museum. Anyone who believes that the Nazis did not persecute certain religious groups is terribly misguided, Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, politically dangerous people even certain Christian groups. As Father Niemoller said they came for my parishioner and I was relieved, than they came for my neighbor I was relieved, but finally when they came for me there was no one to protest. So keeping historical items from an era of darkness preserves the memory of that time.

Originally Posted by cudarunner

Whether of not the razors are indeed from the Third Reich history must be preserved for if history is erased then future generations can't learn from the past. There are still today those who try to say that the Holocaust never happened (Mel Gibson's Father for one) the Jews, Gypsys, mental patients and others just merely 'moved away'. Fortunately the Foundation of the Shoah was founded to record testimony from those that survived.

A man I knew well who had been part of the forces that liberated one of the NAZI death camps found two items that while gruesome he wanted to keep them to show folks back here what had been done so that they could visually see and not just hear stories, but they were confiscated by his superiors. He never knew what happened to them. They were two lampshades made from the tanned tattooed skin of human beings.

He used to say that he didn't know what was burned every once in awhile here in our little valley but it smelled like that death camp did.

I have no reason to doubt his story as he was a simple farmer, an honest man and definitely not a braggart or one who liked to draw attention to himself. I miss him as he was a good man and a very decent human being.

Now to the Shoah/look to the right and click on the Visual History Archive:

USC Shoah Foundation

Many years ago my then wife along with the pastor (with written parental permission) took our daughter and other teen age members of our church youth group to see the movie 'The Passion of the Christ' my daughter arrived home all teary saying "How could they do that to a man"? I have Net Flix so I rented Schindler's List to show her what was done to over 6 million people. I didn't think that she would ever stop crying. I hope it made a permanent impression on her.

Here's another link of interest:

Spielberg's Shoah Foundation turns 20 | The Times of Israel

I hope the last link will work as it doesn't seem to come up in the Preview like the first one does.If by chance it doesn't I hope that by coping and pasting to your browser will make it come up.

I'm sorry if I got off topic but I needed to write this.

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

The only ones to be excused are those reading this forum in braille or listening to it on radio, scenarios as unlikely as an adult confusing the evil intent of the nazi reworking of the swastika with the former innocent good luck charm.

Regards,
Neil

We actually have a blind member who reads SRP in braille. Don't know if he is still active. He once asked if someone could help him with a captcha on another website, which is how I know. Because I was curious, I did shave blindfolded a couple of times. Turns out this is easier than one might think.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

I bet that if you pulled 30 random kids from their high school classroom, ,, no more than 5 would even know what the Swastika emblem was,,, & ,,,, I bet no more than 8 could tell you what a Nazi was,,, that's the real problem today.

If I may:
From my own observations I can report that German high schools kids have no problem identifying the Third Reich swastika and telling your what it was all about.

Which is reassuring, as it proves my belief that people(s) can learn from past mistakes.
Which in turn will allow us to move forward and strike allegiances - and even close friendships - with former enemies (e.g. moving on from the War of Revolution all the way to Churchill's "Special Relationship" speech).

It's just the idea of some people being prepared to pay a premium for some (rather useless) Nazi paraphernalia with no historical value that is troubling me.

Buying such souvenirs and thereby paying indirectly homage to a regime like the Third Reich strikes me as plainly wrong.

Originally Posted by Bruno

We actually have a blind member who reads SRP in braille. Don't know if he is still active. He once asked if someone could help him with a captcha on another website, which is how I know. Because I was curious, I did shave blindfolded a couple of times. Turns out this is easier than one might think.

FWIW I too am able to follow this forum thanks to that wonderful invention, broil... sorry, I'll just touch that again...

Regards,
Neil

Funny that the nazi's still whip up so much discussion. What about the japanese, their atrocities were by no means less than what the nazi's did, but that seems to be of lesser interest.
Almost each and every person of European decent, military or not, who happened to be in a japanese occupied country during WW2 was put in a concentration or death camp. What about the native population in those countries.
It is good to remember indiscriminately, by any means possible, for crimes against man and mankind never ceased to happen. They happen right now, right under our noses, thanks to our modern information systems.
Let us worry about that, and not about a few nazi trinkets,

Originally Posted by johnpeter

Funny that the nazi's still whip up so much discussion. What about the japanese, their atrocities were by no means less than what the nazi's did, but that seems to be of lesser interest.
Almost each and every person of European decent, military or not, who happened to be in a japanese occupied country during WW2 was put in a concentration or death camp. What about the native population in those countries.
It is good to remember indiscriminately, by any means possible, for crimes against man and mankind never ceased to happen. They happen right now, right under our noses, thanks to our modern information systems.
Let us worry about that, and not about a few nazi trinkets,

Well said.

Those damn Canvey Islanders have a lot to answer for, too...

I'm a collector of Bismarck razors.

Nothing Nazi about them.

English steel, Ground in Germany. Operating between 1910 and 1930 ish by Arthur/August Muller. That means the mark predates the party by a number of years.

The English steel part is actually printed on the back of the box.

"The Bismarck razor is highly recommended. It's quality is superior to that of any other. The brand is well known and it's introduction in record time is due solely to its merits. It is used by barbers with the greatest satisfaction as well as private individuals. The Bismarck razor is made of the very best English silver steel and is hollow ground under expert control. Every razor is guaranteed."

That's a direct quote from a 6/8 registered box.

My later 5/8th model omits the English bit. And my later again 7/8 has no back label.

Dorp & Voos purchased that same trademark in the mid 1950's, and it's why we have DO(rp)VO(os) Bismarcks.