Thread: Real Fili?

It is a Filarmonica and probably a very late model, near when they went out of business. The company near its end started using Made in Spain in English so that stamp is not a problem, were there any marking on the other side? 13-B is a fairly common marking on later Filis. I have never seen this blade etching before but that means nothing. The company was grasping at straws near the end and it is suggested they weren't even making their own razors near the end. This could be a special order, a limited run or even an advertising model. The pinning on yours is identical to my 3 so you are good there as well in terms of this being a File. Now, if this model is from a later production model there can be issues, not so much with the blade as with the over-all quality control. You should be able to get many wonderful shaves from that unique razor. Nice find!

Originally Posted by doc47

It is a Filarmonica and probably a very late model, near when they went out of business. The company near its end started using Made in Spain in English so that stamp is not a problem, were there any marking on the other side? 13-B is a fairly common marking on later Filis. I have never seen this blade etching before but that means nothing. The company was grasping at straws near the end and it is suggested they weren't even making their own razors near the end. This could be a special order, a limited run or even an advertising model. The pinning on yours is identical to my 3 so you are good there as well in terms of this being a File. Now, if this model is from a later production model there can be issues, not so much with the blade as with the over-all quality control. You should be able to get many wonderful shaves from that unique razor. Nice find!

The pinning is identical to my only other Filarmonica, which I know is a later model.

There are no other marks on the tang. My #13 has "Made in Spain" in English & Spanish on the pile side of the tang, "Filarmonica" and the lyre on the front side. That is what made me leery of it. Hope the geometry and steel are good. Looking forward to using it.

Originally Posted by doc47

The pinning on yours is identical to my 3 so you are good there as well in terms of this being a File.

Your 3 Filis have the "nail head" pins like modern production razors such as Dovo, TI and Revisor?

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

Your 3 Filis have the "nail head" pins like modern production razors such as Dovo, TI and Revisor?

Bob

Bob, here is a photo. Are they not the same?

[QUOTE=doc47;1757571]Bob, here is a photo. Are they not the same?[QUOTE]

Here are the pins used today by most current makers.

Spare parts : E-0001

They have a head like a nail formed to look like a peened pin. The nail head is usually seen on the show side of the razor and the other end is peened traditionally.

Have a closer look at the OP's pivot pin. I think the wedge pin is done traditionally.

Here is a photo of my modern TI and "nail head" type pinning on the show side of the razor.



It could very well be a very late production Fili but I think it has been repinned at sometime in the past for some unknown reason.

Originally Posted by BobH

Here is a photo of my modern TI and "nail head" type pinning on the show side of the razor

It could very well be a very late production Fili but I think it has been repinned at sometime in the past for some unknown reason.

Thanks Bob!

Originally Posted by doc47

Thanks Bob!

You are welcome. It is a small thing and easily overlooked in a photo.

Bob

Yup ... late production filis used nail type pins...
And as far as I remember the tang markings wewr stamped on to remember the blade's designated heat treatment and temper...while this may or may not be true...what is certain is the letters match the models accordingly and are more frequently found on exported blades of late production...although this is not a rule....some Sello Oro models have no tail stamps...
The bumber was followed by a letter:
S - for Sub Cero
P - Novodur
G - Double Temple
B - Medallon Taurino
N - Inox
T - EPBD

If my guess is right your fily should be a wedge grind....from a Medallon Taurino blank...let me know if I nailed it

It's a 5/8 full hollow ground. Can't answer to the rest.

Originally Posted by ovidiucotiga

Yup ... late production filis used nail type pins...

Thanks for the info. You get to learn something new everyday. Still a little puzzled why the wedge pin appears to be traditionally peened and not the pivot. I guess it is possible the whoever did the pinning put the nail head on the off side for the wedge for some reason.

Bob