Thread: ID: Six-Point Star Symbol

Remind me what is stamped on the reverse side of the tang, I can't read it from the photo

Originally Posted by CJBianco

I am wondering...where di you find the information stating it was a barber's supply shop?

here you go:

Credit goes to: http://razorland55.free.fr

The funny part is in the red statement on top of the catalogue:

"Gentlemen customers are pleased to not cut the pictures with a scissor in this catalogue.

It simply suffice, mentionning the article, to write down its reference number to obtain what one desire..........." What does it means? They were no ladies in "da buziness" or simply that men were stupid?

Originally Posted by Viola

FWIW - It looks Hebrew to me. Just an opinion. Nazi Germany (Hitler) brought about the Star of David as THE symbol for Judaism. The Menorah is the only true symbol. When Israel adopted it for their flag, that kind of sealed the deal with people that it was a Jewish symbol. The Star of David dates back to Egyptian times and has been used in Kaballah, Islam, Christianity, by the Occult, the Freemasons, and everywhere in between.

Great information! I do know someone who is Jewish. Maybe I'll ask him the next time I see him. Or email him the photo.

Why is it temporarily unavailable? I think it's beautiful.

Honestly...I'm afraid to sell it. As a Buddhist, I must avoid any intentional [or accidental, if it can be helped] misleading information. (It's akin to Thou shalt not lie!) But beyond that, I'd feel simply awful if someone bought it thinking one thing, and time proved the other. Of course, I always offer a 100% refund on anything I sell, but it's better to never require a refund in the first place. Don't you agree? Anyway...the short answer is...it's because I'm afraid. LOL =)

Me

Originally Posted by Karakoup1

here you go:

Credit goes to: http://razorland55.free.fr

Ah! It looks like the catalogue is for beauty supplies, and there is an advertisement for Gelle Freres, which is a perfume and soap company. (Under the Gell Freres name it shows their specialty: PARFUMEURS / SAVONNIERS.)

Oops! I looked more closely. It's the cover page of the catalog, brought to you by Gelle Freres! =) It looks like they may have been branching out into the beauty supply business, but were still marketing themselves primarily as a perfume and soap company.

What does it means? They were no ladies in "da buziness" or simply that men were stupid?

I thought it was established long ago that men, compared to women, are stupid. =)

Me

Originally Posted by CJBianco

Great information! I do know someone who is Jewish. Maybe I'll ask him the next time I see him. Or email him the photo.



Honestly...I'm afraid to sell it. As a Buddhist, I must avoid any intentional [or accidental, if it can be helped] misleading information. (It's akin to Thou shalt not lie!) But beyond that, I'd feel simply awful if someone bought it thinking one thing, and time proved the other. Of course, I always offer a 100% refund on anything I sell, but it's better to never require a refund in the first place. Don't you agree? Anyway...the short answer is...it's because I'm afraid. LOL =)

Me

I understand. I practice the tenants of Buddhism myself and honesty is certainly hard to come by now days. I applaud you. And I applaud your location as I am originally from Greer, SC.

Originally Posted by CJBianco

Oops! I looked more closely. It's the cover page of the catalog, brought to you by Gelle Freres! =) It looks like they may have been branching out into the beauty supply business, but were still marketing themselves primarily as a perfume and soap company.

You are forgetting something important in the French culture: LE PRESTIGE....

Looking better than "Barbers' supplies shop".... especially when one sells "luxury" perfumes...

Originally Posted by Karakoup1

You are forgetting something important in the French culture: LE PRESTIGE....

Looking better than "Barbers' supplies shop".... especially when one sells "luxury" perfumes...

That's true. I also found one old reference HERE that lists the chief products of various manufacturers for the convention at the time (1884), and it lists under the Gelle Freres name (p. 344): (1) Soaps, (2) Perfumery, and (3) Special Hygenic Glycerine Perfumery. (At least, I think that's what it's showing.)

Regardless, they market themselves [as seen in the magazine above] as perfumers and soap-makers.

But you may be right. Perhaps they started as a perfume/soap company and turned into a barber supply shop a few years later. I don't know. I can't say for sure. I wasn't there.

This is great information we're digging up!

Thanks,
Christopher

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

Remind me what is stamped on the reverse side of the tang, I can't read it from the photo

Lee,

On the reverse side is stamped (upside-down): GELLE FRERES A PARIS.

So it seems it was made by the Rameau character/company for the Gelle Freres company.

Me

Originally Posted by CJBianco

I now believe it is more likely eitherthe Hebrew symbol for the Star of David or it is simply a cool pattern that someone chose for some kind of logo. (I still have no idea what the logo means.)

(Argh! This is giving me a mindache!)

Any more theories???

Me

The logo is a small branch which is what the Family name (Rameau) means. They had an other mark that was a dove holding a small branch across its beak, but this latter was more used on knifes (more space).

Hope this help..

Originally Posted by Karakoup1

The logo is a small branch which is what the Family name (Rameau) means. They had an other mark that was a dove holding a small branch across its beak, but this latter was more used on knifes (more space).

Hope this help..

Yes, it does help. It confirms the dove/branch logo in front of the RAMEAU stamp. (Now if we could just identify and confirm that darn six-point star stamp! LOL)

Thanks for all your hard work and research. I appreciate it!

Me