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    Angry Prices for German razors have gone through the roof

    Chaps,

    As you may or may not know, I recently traded some razors with Paul, aka Sharp&Shiny. Part of the trade was a Dovo Bergischer Löwe (referred to by the barbarians as Begrisher Lowe, or worse).

    Now then, I had a discussion with another member on #srp this morning. He is considering buying a Bergischer Löwe. A couple of observations I'd like to share with you:

    1. New razors are not immune from scale warping. The scales on my BL warped literally over night.
    2. While the BL is a great shaver (as are all new, i.e. younger than 3 years, Dovos I had the pleasure of trying), it does not knock me off my feet like this Herder (EUR 30 at an auction site) or this Sellers wedge (also from Paul). It's excellent, but not out of this world.
    3. Which brings me to the subject matter: prices. I knew the BL was pricey. But I checked current prices for the guy on #srp. And lo! prices in Germany have completely gone through the roof. Case in point: US price: $243.99. Equally reputable German dealer with good prices: 222.00 Euro aka $312.93.

    Bottom line: If you really want any of these new razors, get them outside Germany while they are still relatively affordable. I am glad I have mine (not least because Paul honed it very well), but I would never buy one new, not at that price. Remember: Excellent vintage razors in excellent or mint condition can be had for 1/3 that price, and chances are they will shave even better.

    Mind you, this post is not meant as a reason to discuss any specific vendor's prices.
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    It's also worth considering the import duties if you're based outside the States & buying from a US based dealer. This no doubt applies the other way round too, so that $312.93 would actually be even more by the time you get your first shave out of it!
    You guys are fairly spoilt with reasonable prices compared to us European based members!

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    So, you foresee the prices going up in the US as well? Because Dovo is one of the most affordable razors on the market today, I think that's one of the reasons for it's popularity. They are excellent shavers, and lookers, but rising prices isn't going to help sell them, that for sure....I did not buy the BL, I bought a Dovo Bismarck, which is a nice looking razor, and a bit less pricey...I have never heard about scale warping in Dovo until now....
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    Quote Originally Posted by zib View Post
    So, you foresee the prices going up in the US as well?
    I would think so. I think what you're seeing is the last cheap ones being sold. But that is speculation only.

    Quote Originally Posted by zib View Post
    Because Dovo is one of the most affordable razors on the market today, I think that's one of the reasons for it's popularity. They are excellent shavers, and lookers, but rising prices isn't going to help sell them, that for sure....I did not buy the BL, I bought a Dovo Bismarck, which is a nice looking razor, and a bit less pricey...I have never heard about scale warping in Dovo until now....
    Well, prices for Wacker razors have developed in the same direction, only they were never low to begin with.

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    Yes there is much less material on the market here.
    The development (since I'm into razors) is going straight upwards.

    Its a real good advice to buy now. It can only get worse.

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    It just seems everytime I get involved in something the prices just seem to skyrocket.

    I'm glad I bought my razors a few years ago. At the rate we're going a new Livi wil be cheaper than a new TI.
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    Default dovo went up glad i bought 2 two weeks ago

    Just purchased 2 dovo razors 2 weeks ago and the price went up 28 dollars for a perlex carbon razor. Hope that not going to continue at that rate

    I should of bought 3

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    Lol. And to think I bought a grip of 4 very shiny condition Solingen razors for $150 this last month... 2 NOS(Schmidt, Tambour), one minty (Leader), one with very tiny amounts of light pitting (Goldedge). I much prefer antique hunting. More fun, and the razors have more... personality. Yes I have RAD in a bad way, and given ten thousand bucks would not even blink at buying all the higher end Dovos as opposed to a car. But the cool cosmetics of the nicer Dovos are not worth $300 hard earned dollars. Especially if I can find 4 razors, all of which are glitzy (Goldedge and Leader are the peak of glitzy in my opinion, I'm just missing the Hans and Beau now...), all have inlays or fancy celluloid or bolster etc, all for under $150. My guess is it will boom and bust. I'm gonna hold out. In ten years, this will all be past and we'll hav elots of new razors to buy cheap cus the fad-ders have dumped and ran.

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    I really like speculating on this kind of thing. You'd think new production razors would hit some sort of plateau in prices even though clearly the prices are rising as the demand is high. But, they're new razors. How high could they go? If we flash forward five years, are entry level new Dovos with plastic scales going to be $500? I hope not.

    Vintage razors are going to be harder to find as years pass by. After most surface in the antique shops and estate sales and are held by collectors and others like us, the deals we all look for will be virtually gone. The deals we find now, either on Ebay or in person at antique shops are arguably priced lower than the razors are worth; that's why they're "deals".

    We don't want to pay what a razor is worth if we can help it, but someday we're going to have to most of the time.

    I'm finding it interesting to watch it develop.

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    Part of the problem is Dollar vs. Euro exchange rates. Euro is going through the roof so prices of everything made in Euroland will be going through the roof when paid in USD.
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