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    W&B made a medium hollow ground. I've got one, but its being fixed right now. Thomas Turner & Emblem razor co. I'm working on those too as well. Also have one more....Hargreaves Smith & Co. I love that one, it's going to make a great shaver.

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    I have a Medium hollow PUMA (Number 39),that is a great razor and I had a Wostenholm Pipe "Medium Hollow" that I sold and now regret.I bought the PUMA from Gabor at Fine Razors. He really knows what he is doing. Highly recommended.

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    beautiful razors!
    I've got a Flying Wedge, very similar to the Spike.
    Great shaver, and I'm looking forward to trying some small wedges like yours.

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    I love that Henckels! My 7th day would be a W. Greaves.

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    Ray, these are nice!

    I too colle- er, I mean like to shave with this style of razor. And as I was looking at your photos in the first post I was thinking to myself "he needs an MK 22 for #7" and then I scrolled down the thread and there it was well done!
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    RayG, those are beautiful razors. Thanks for sharing. I am however confused as to the term WEDGE. I found a Case RedImp "wedge" but later was told that it was a 1/4 hollow. Now I have been looking for a true wedge but it seems that the term WEDGE doesn't necessarily mean "true wedge IE. when the blade is laid flat on a hone there is no space from spine to edge. Am I missing something in nomenclature or is the term WEDGE somewhat more encompassing than I thought?

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    When hollowing was first introduced, a hollow ground razor was not really very hollow by standards a hundred years later.

    So you will see beefy old razors that have "hollow ground" imprinted on the blade face and yet you will see nearly as hollowed or even more so razors from the 20th century that have "wedge" stamped on the tang. The usage of the term has evolved, but the way we mostly refer to the grinds here on SRP more closely follows the later usage and not the earlier.

    Either way, I would not call any of Ray's razors above full hollow ground razors just because I don't think any of them would have been considered such when they were manufactured although they may not have all been considered wedges at that time either...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoglahoo View Post
    When hollowing was first introduced, a hollow ground razor was not really very hollow by standards a hundred years later.

    So you will see beefy old razors that have "hollow ground" imprinted on the blade face and yet you will see nearly as hollowed or even more so razors from the 20th century that have "wedge" stamped on the tang. The usage of the term has evolved, but the way we mostly refer to the grinds here on SRP more closely follows the later usage and not the earlier.

    Either way, I would not call any of Ray's razors above full hollow ground razors just because I don't think any of them would have been considered such when they were manufactured although they may not have all been considered wedges at that time either...
    So, if one wants a true wedge, not 1/4 hollow, is it appropriate to ask the seller on this site that question? And more importantly, will most sellers know? And is my description of a true wedge : "true wedge, IE. when the blade is laid flat on a hone there is no space from spine to edge." accurate?

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    If you were to ask me for a true wedge, I would show you some images which graphically portray the razors' profiles that I consider wedges and you would decide for yourself by looking at them. I have never seen a razor that has two perfectly flat sides with one cutting bevel that extends unbroken from edge to spine. Note that Ray qualified all of those razors in the first post as quarter hollow

    This one is close though



    sorry Ray!
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    Yep, what Lee said. True wedges are a little harder to come by, but your best bet are the older Sheffiels. There were at least a couple of WB's on the classifieds these past two weeks, one I sold, and I think Sham sold another. The 6/8 Eliot i sold was another one. As you mentioned, the blade lays flat on the hone. Another clue is the hone wear you see along the spine if the blade was honed with no tape. This is typically wider, not the thin line seen with hollow grounds.

    Ok, don't ask me why the entire blade just doesn't wear down uniformly on the hone. Maybe someone else can answer that.

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