Thread: Douglas cutlery

Gugi - I didn't mean any offense. What I was trying to say, and not very clearly I'm afraid, is that the OP posted in the Show and Tell section of the forum where he was "displaying a recent acquisition" as stated in the subhead. He wasn't seeking technical advice, just doing a little bragging. And yes, "As long as you're satisfied with your razor everything is great" in the show and tell section. The OP wasn't complaining about his razor or asking for consumer protection. Maybe I was overreacting, but some comments seemed a little harsh.

As far as false information getting corrected . . . that sounds a little judgmental. Just because someone's ideas are different doesn't make them incorrect. Einstein's theory of relativity was initially deemed incorrect by most physicists of his time. I'm not putting this discussion on the same level as Einstein, but the analogy is apropos. I'm not sure where you come from but, "Where I come from true is true and false is false, and lack of understanding is not a carte blanche to simply make stuff up" sounds suspiciously like: What I believe is true and what I don't believe is false and any new idea is simply a lack of understanding.

And if you believe it is arrogant to "keep reinventing the wheel" I can only believe you must be driving around in an automobile similar to the one in the photo below.

I apologize for hijacking this thread.

Regards - Walt

Originally Posted by Walt

Gugi - I didn't mean any offense. What I was trying to say, and not very clearly I'm afraid, is that the OP posted in the Show and Tell section of the forum where he was "displaying a recent acquisition" as stated in the subhead. He wasn't seeking technical advice, just doing a little bragging. And yes, "As long as you're satisfied with your razor everything is great" in the show and tell section. The OP wasn't complaining about his razor or asking for consumer protection. Maybe I was overreacting, but some comments seemed a little harsh.

Hold one one second and take a look back at the thread. Yes, it was started 7 months ago as show&tell, and every customer was raving about the razors. However, when the wide (and terribly uneven) bevels were pointed out an explanation was offered involving some made up reasons about functionality.

Originally Posted by Walt

As far as false information getting corrected . . . that sounds a little judgmental. Just because someone's ideas are different doesn't make them incorrect.

Of course not, being incorrect is what makes them incorrect - and the science is out there, you can even find copies of important papers in the Library section.

Originally Posted by Walt

Einstein's theory of relativity was initially deemed incorrect by most physicists of his time. I'm not putting this discussion on the same level as Einstein, but the analogy is apropos.

Nope, the analogy is terrible - I would venture to speculate that it's because you do not know or understand that theory, how it came about, and how it was received. It was developed based on 'empirical evidence' which demonstrated that the existing theories were wrong. In Einstein's theory was consistent with the new evidence, but so were a number of competing theories. Which one survived - the one whose predictions of new phenomena were consistent with the observations of these phenomena when those observations were made later on.

Originally Posted by Walt

I'm not sure where you come from but, "Where I come from true is true and false is false, and lack of understanding is not a carte blanche to simply make stuff up" sounds suspiciously like: What I believe is true and what I don't believe is false and any new idea is simply a lack of understanding.

Yes, I come from the world of science and there is a small part about belief, but the enormity of it is about empirical evidence. Your description is the exact opposite of what science is about.
That's why I have a problem when people just throw out there some fake but technical sounding explanations, or when they present photographs supposedly showing something, but witholding all the important information which could show their story is junk. I have enough experience to reject this kind of manipulation.

There's something though... In the way you say it, that just tickles my say-the-contrary fancy...

All I want to know Walt, is ,,,,who is that riding shotgun with Gugi ????

Originally Posted by dudness

There's something though... In the way you say it, that just tickles my say-the-contrary fancy...

Good, I do want to hear anything contrary, that's the way to find the truth. The only requirement, of course, is that it can't be based on hearsay, or pure speculation, but there has to be substantiating evidence.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

All I want to know Walt, is ,,,,who is that riding shotgun with Gugi ????

That's my wife, so mind your manners

Originally Posted by gugi

Good, I do want to hear anything contrary, that's the way to find the truth. The only requirement, of course, is that it can't be based on hearsay, or pure speculation, but there has to be substantiating evidence.

Oh... There is substantiating evidence that all the truth in this world of men does not reside in science only.

And, by the way, is :

Take a look at the razors marketed 'For Tough Beards' when straight shaving was far more common and there was huge competition. A lot of them, including from the top manufacturers, are full hollow and extra full hollow ground.

a scientifical evidence ?

Originally Posted by dudness

Oh... There is substantiating evidence that all the truth in this world of men does not reside in science only.

Yet science is the only thing with predictive power.

Originally Posted by dudness

And, by the way, is :

a scientifical evidence ?

I didn't claim it is, what's your question?

Try again, but I am not interested in arguing over semantics - please address the 'techno-mumbo-jumbo'.

Originally Posted by dudness

Oh... There is substantiating evidence that all the truth in this world of men does not reside in science only.

I'm sorry, but I didn't quite understand your point here.
Do excuse me, English is not my first language.
Could you ellaborate, please?