Thread: Douglas cutlery

Originally Posted by bishpick1

the bottom picture is the same damaged razor made ready for use after stropping not honing. you really should actually read the article.

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Oh Sorry you didnt undertand what i said, did i say something about honing? i did indeed read the article, my point was to show the obvious saw tooth pattern. Perhaps you should read my post again.So tell me on the blade made ready do you see a tooth pattern?

Originally Posted by bishpick1

You know I always believed if you build a better mouse trap the world will beat a path to your door. But it seems some believe, if someone tries to build a better mouse trap they should be burned at the stake for witch craft.

A bit harsh, but I definitely get your point.
I tried to read & understand the "point/counter-point" debate that you are have with a couple of the members, but it's technically above me.

My opinion; what you are experiencing here (in this thread) is not resistance for trying to build a better mouse trap(straight razor); the resistance you are experiencing comes from the venue from which you have chosen to introduce this new mouse trap. One thing that I learned quick about SRP, is that new products & theories, are put to the test; they run the gauntlet, so to speak. This is indeed a good thing. It strengthens the existence of our art, wet shaving. People from all over the globe rely on information/evaluations from within this site. SRP sets a high standard in wet shaving education. If it's a product or practice that has survived the scrutiny here, it usually does well on the market.

You will not convert/convince everyone on any one product here at SRP, but just the debate that you have had in this thread, has put forth information that will support your product to many.

Remember the venue you have chosen, before typing frustration,,,,many people like your product, more will too, after this thread.

My wood chisels have smaller bevels than this razor. Granted, the chisel is only designed for cutting effortlessly through solid oak, where the razor has to cut through hairs that are equivalent to solid rebar.

Or maybe not...

Btw, we welcome new things and new ideas. But as was said by others: they will be tested and analyzed. And those wide ugly bevels are caused by the simple fact that those razors are not ground further after heat treatment.

Trying to make up for that with reasons is an uphill battle. There is no functional requirement for bevels of that width, and the only thing they'll do is to make honing more difficult.

This thread has gone very far off the tracks for a Show & Tell topic. I'm closing this thread temporarily so everyone can cool their jets.

Okay folks, the thread has been reopened.

PLEASE keep discussions on topic for Show & Tell and, more importantly, keep things civil.

Thanks,

Ryan82

Originally Posted by bishpick1

I'm not the only one who holds this "incorrect representation" here's a few others.

If you thought that science was certain -- well, that is just an error on your part.

The problem is that you simply can not transfer the uncertainty of cutting edge unresolved scientific problems to well established facts in their domain. Relativity and quantum mechanics did not invalidate newton's laws for slow macroscopic objects. For example no human being has yet experienced spontaneous quantum teleportation, and neither has any car, or airplane, or fast runner shrunk in any significant way due to their high speed. But your cell phone and your GPS are able to function only because the quantum and relativistic effects have been properly accounted for.
So, no cop out from being wrong because of 'scientific uncertainty'.

Originally Posted by bishpick1

Originally Posted by gugi

See, how easy it was to invalidate your arguments from post 16

I don't feel invalidated.

Your argument is, though. Reread that article, as well as others and pay close attention to the numbers. The processes that are described there are happening on a scale many orders of magnitude smaller than the width of your bevels. All that steel on your huge bevels has absolutely nothing to do with what is occurring at the edge. The only thing it does is making your razors unnecessarily hard to maintain. As I said, a customer may consider this as the cost of having the aesthetics of wide bevel if they like that, but your argument was about functionality.
And that is by far not the only functional issue on your razors, regardless of whether you have heard about it from your customers.

I feel a strong need to voice my opinion of this thread.

1. I own a bishpick razor and love the shave it gives.
2. This razor is one of my favorites, and I consider it a family heirloom now.
3. The shave from my razor is as good as any wedge razor I own.
4. In one years time, and probably only 5 shaves, the razor is still going strong, no need for rehoning.
5. It was an experience second to none, having a razor tailored to your request is a rare experience, one seldom affordable to computer geeks like me.
6. The thick bevel did not effect the quality of 'my' shaves.
7. When it is due to be rehoned, I will attempt it myself and learn a lot more about the razor than I knew before, again a welcome experience.

In conclusion, all science aside, for me the whole process was one I enjoyed and cherished and would recommend to anyone who can afford it.

I have a lot of respect for anyone with the skills to be able to create such works of art as I regard my razor to be.

I don't believe that they have been represented to be anything other than what they are. No claims have been made that were not met, and no customer whom I have had contact with has regreted the experience.

That says 'winner' to me.

Thanks for allowing my 2 cents.

HammeR

Thought I would post a morning response. I purposely haven't shaved since my initial review to really get some growth going again. Had a great shave this morning, that to be honest, was quite fun! My neck build was getting thick and with my coarse hair, full hollows like to pull a little. My DC razor just runs right through it in one pass. With it's over all mass it tends to give a lot of "Backbone" to my morning shave. I am very happy with the results of my razor and that's what counts to me. I could give a crap less about technology and all the terminology. It's very simple for me. It's necessity for me to shave with a straight razor so my neck doesn't get torn up, and this razor passes my test of a very comfortable shave that my wife very much enjoys. I have a decent collection and am proud to say this is one of my favorites.

Thanks all

I Ditto that FlockFace, Well said. All that matters is that your happy with you razor and its shave.....

Wow that was a walk down memory lane... pot holes and all. Haha . It amazes me how many years I would get to do the most fun and challenging job in the world. Most (if not all) my coustemers are very dear friends. For those who do not know 2 years ago I started having heart attacks. Not "A" heart attack, Heart attack->(S)<-. I lost count but it's somewhere around 20 or so. Pretty much once a month i woild have another. But the good news is they found a way to jury rig my heart. Along with a few other parts they installed electronic ignition in a 1961 Pickle. IF all goes well for the first time in 2 years (IF not big enough ) i will be able to return to work within the year. I know Mr Moderator. This post has probably broken at least 25 rules, please understand no advertising intentions of any kind where had or intended. I just wanted to tell some very good friends thanks for the prayers, the kind word's, and the affection you have shown me and my family.

P.S. when I didn't know I was going to make it. I told my wife I wanted a coffin with the largest beveled sides she could find.