Role of SRP BST discussion thread cont.

[Bruno]

On the other hand, maybe we should just all set up our own selling sites.

The BST is meant for members to sell their stuff.
It is not meant to be a storefront.

Having members swamp the forum with sale threads as if the BST was their personal storefront is not the purpose of BST.

[dcarmell]

Many good comments in this thread. I think others have said something like this, but as a fairly new person here and to SR shaving, there are lots of razors that are new to me: brands, toe styles, grinds, etc. I think that a well-described, well-photographed razor ad is a contribution in itself--I can learn from a post that is selling a well-described razor, just as I can from that razor in the review section or show-and-tell.

And as I said elsewhere, I'd also hate to think that some long time members who do such a great job restoring razors would have an artificial limit put on their sales. Even if I don't buy a particular razor, I can get a lot of pleasure from seeing it!

This is probably the most polite and calm board I've ever spent time on. I agree that some common self and a desire to keep the board, including B/S/T will keep it that way!

Dan

[chancecatalyst]

I DO plan on selling razors on SRP BST in the future unlike some that have said they never will. The reason I haven't yet is that I intend on selling razors I take great pains and time into restoring and razors that would first either be in my own shaving rotation or would be shave worthy sharp of being in my rotation. I'm not advocating that only such razors be sold in BST (and that razors in need of restoration not be sold in BST), I'm only giving my own personal example of what I intend to use BST for in relation to selling razors occasionally in the future.

Chris L

+1 on this. I just joined a month ago, maybe less. In addition to becoming instantly enchanted with the notion of straight shaving, I was continually--even daily astounded by the goodwill and generosity of members here. I've bought a few things off of BST, and looked at even more. I definitely haven't been around long enough to know if what I got was a good value, shave-ready or not as it may have been, but I paid what I was willing to pay for that razor at the time. There was some issue of conduct in a WTB post I made, but in that case a more senior member (not sure how senior) stepped in and said something. It certainly didn't escalate like the thread that lead here, but some of the same issues were brought up.

I love shaving now, never did before. I also now own a more razors than the number of times I have yet shaved. Mostly due to getting carried away with newbie RAD, but also obtaining some with plans of restoration as I envision this as a much needed hobby. So when I finally find the time to restore a blade I don't intend to keep, I had intended to offer it here, and still do unless things become uncomfortable here. I really don't imagine they will, as I've far too much good here for something like this to darken it.

When the time comes I hope there are no criteria to be met, even if I'm relatively unworried that I'd meet them. From what I've seen, this community DOES do a good job of policing itself. I just hope nothing of what I've discovered SRP to be gets lost in an over-reaction.

Sorry if this got wordy, and I hope it stayed on topic. Hopefully my two cents counts despite having joined only recently...

Evan

[Utopian]

The BST is meant for members to sell their stuff.
It is not meant to be a storefront.

Having members swamp the forum with sale threads as if the BST was their personal storefront is not the purpose of BST.

Just to be clear, what I meant by that comment simply was that if controlling the difficulties of BST becomes too much, it could be solved by having everyone becoming a vendor. I fully acknowledge, understand, and agree that the BST is not and should not be used as a storefront.

[kaptain_zero]

Regarding the post count issue before posting.... I am a member of another forum (A linux OS and related software forum) where there is a "package request" sub forum for members of the community to request something that is not currently available. This particular forum remains invisible to visitors/newly joined members until they have become part of the community, to keep frivolous requests down to a minimum ( and that is based on ones total post count). It is automatic so no Mods are needed to police that part, perhaps a similar technique could be employed on SRP?

Regards

Kaptain "Just thinking out loud...." Zero

[syslight]

OK, so sometimes i go off "half-cocked". however, i think that a post count or a time on the forum limit is silly, again it leads to silly spamming.

but what is the nature of occasional, sure it is great to see some of the handiwork that others produce but it would be nicer to see them in the razor or restoration thread, but constantly seeing the same members post 5 or six razors a week or every couple of weeks makes it seem like the board is dedicated to them. i see know issue with a member wanting to sell 6 razors at a time but they should only do that once every couple of months, IMO.

Those people who have plans to sell more frequently than that should do so in either the classified section or in the vendor area. Many of our more frequent sellers freely list that they consider razor restoration and honing as a business so expecting them to behave like other vendors is reasonable.

for a final note, i thought we had hashed all this out last month. when people started commenting on other folks prices, and the upshot was if you did not have anything good to say about the deal offered or in some way wanted to question it you were to do it with a pm or two not openly so that you embarrass or insult a fellow member... or maybe that is just part of my interpretation of gentlemanly conduct.


not every great shaving razor is a delight to the eye and not every beautiful razor is good to shave with.

[Baloosh]

P.S. I'd hate to see use go the way of B&B or SMF as they often seem to overreact to little things making them less friendly and less gentlemanly places to hang out.

Ironic you should say that, as this forum is regarded by more than a few people I've talked to as the least friendly of all the forums. It's probably somewhat due to the nature of this forum itself (dedicated to straight razor shaving exclusively), but I've found all the wetshaving forums to be VERY gentlemenly and respectful, by and large.

It's all about perception.

[syslight]

Ironic you should say that, as this forum is regarded by more than a few people I've talked to as the least friendly of all the forums. It's probably somewhat due to the nature of this forum itself (dedicated to straight razor shaving exclusively), but I've found all the wetshaving forums to be VERY gentlemenly and respectful, by and large.

It's all about perception.

i have noticed that as this site has grown a lot in the past year, around 1500 new members since i joined, there have been "hiccups" in the gentlemanly conduct from time to time. but there is still a core of old hands around that make every attempt to help people on the path to a great shave. in any group of people there are the inevitable small cliques of people who from time to time believe the group exists for their benefit... sadly around here that usually means they splinter off and form a new shaving website.

this current discussion is really just part of our growing pains.

[OLD_SCHOOL]

Ironic you should say that, as this forum is regarded by more than a few people I've talked to as the least friendly of all the forums. It's probably somewhat due to the nature of this forum itself (dedicated to straight razor shaving exclusively), but I've found all the wetshaving forums to be VERY gentlemenly and respectful, by and large.

It's all about perception.

Please lets keep this thread on track so as to avoid turning it into a pissing competition between other forums.

[OLD_SCHOOL]

After taking some time to sleep on it, I now also have come to the conclusion that post count and length of time as a member won't be so helpful.
As said people may post junk or one sentence crap to up their post count. Members who have been here for a year with not a very high post count can still have the exact same effect as a person who just joined up now and starts selling stuff.

I think Azjoe really hit the nail on the head when he said we need to police this site ourselves but...... I have been online a few times where there are a dozen or so members online with one small problem, they're all newbies that joined up that same month. In that case, self policing is a little awkward because how do these newbies know enough to tell another newbie something is over priced or not a good deal?

Just my unwanted 0.02 again.