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    What assault rifle do you recommend? American made is tough to beat, but I bet there are some quality European models that can be had at a reasonable cost per use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engine46 View Post
    I just went to this website to start a petition against it. Whether or not it will help.............only time will tell but we must fight for this. You may have to register but they send me petitions against animal cruelty & many more things that are bs! I sign a lot.

    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/
    I am not sure that petitions against animal cruelty are bs, well unless you like being cruel to animals.
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    Bread and water can so easily become tea and toast

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomSlick View Post
    What assault rifle do you recommend? American made is tough to beat, but I bet there are some quality European models that can be had at a reasonable cost per use.
    Nothing beats US made when it comes to a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of home-based soap making. These should be handed out to all upstanding home-based soap making lovers.
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    Something like this may be more appropriate and much less dangerous.
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    "Stockpile assault rifles in case the government takes away your soap."

    I am on it....


    Also on the new rule table...

    Craft Brew beer has expanded greatly in recent years and big beer lobbyists need to protect their monopoly...

    FDA will mandate by next December that restaurant chains offer full nutritional information for beers on tap — everything from calorie counts to protein content. The rule forces breweries to do expensive tests to keep their suds flowing at places like Applebee’s or TGI Friday’s.

    Such lab work costs more than $600 per brew and takes weeks. Big manufacturers like Bud can absorb the expense and delays, but New York City’s 30 small craft brewers will be hit hard.

    We need protection against those spent grains as well....

    Does the FDA believe that there are significant hazards associated with spent grains from brewing beer?

    "Current Good Manufacturing Practice and Hazard Analysis and Risk-Based Preventive Controls for Food for Animals," FDA has heard many concerns from brewers and distillers about whether the rule will allow them to continue providing spent grains (by-products from alcoholic-beverage brewing and distilling) for animal feed.

    If there has been no evidence of food-borne illness outbreaks resulting from spent grains used in animal feed, why are they now covered under this proposed rule?

    The new food safety law calls for FDA to create rules that help prevent food safety problems rather than relying primarily on reacting to problems.

    Thank goodness the Federal Government is looking out for us. /sarcasm
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    Same as with the soaps the premise is great but reality is always quite different.

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    I am not sure that petitions against animal cruelty are bs, well unless you like being cruel to animals.
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    The California version is nowhere near as scary....

    Quote Originally Posted by RobinK View Post
    Nothing beats US made when it comes to a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of home-based soap making. These should be handed out to all upstanding home-based soap making lovers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gflight View Post
    Also on the new rule table...
    The German Beer Purity Law was was adopted in Bavaria in 1516. More recently, some commentators, German brewers, and even German politicians have argued that the Reinheitsgebot has slowed Germany's adoption of beer trends popular in the rest of the world, like Belgian lambics and American craft styles. Thank God.

    And yes, I truly believe that only non-Germans can make a connection from home-made soap to home-made beers. Prost.

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    The connection is my freedom to choose. I always like a good Hefe but would not want to be forced to drink it forever.

    Purity laws that set a minimum might not be bad as it would set a bar, but that is not what is in play here. Currently in America it is hard to compete with the cheap stuff major breweries put out when government regulations favor them, but like straight shaving craft brew is starting to cut into the market because of its quality.

    Have you ever drank a Budweiser or other mass produced fermented water?

    Imagine having no other options.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobinK View Post
    The German Beer Purity Law was was adopted in Bavaria in 1516. More recently, some commentators, German brewers, and even German politicians have argued that the Reinheitsgebot has slowed Germany's adoption of beer trends popular in the rest of the world, like Belgian lambics and American craft styles. Thank God.

    And yes, I truly believe that only non-Germans can make a connection from home-made soap to home-made beers. Prost.
    Is that German exceptionalism rearing its head?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinK View Post
    Nothing beats US made when it comes to a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of home-based soap making. These should be handed out to all upstanding home-based soap making lovers.
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    No..no..no. That is so very wrong. Weird and wrong.

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