Thread: Pasted Strops "The Experiment"

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Although I am still reading through my post to see where I am out to prove anything to anyone else

Notice I never said I was going to prove a thing to anyone else... and trust me if I do come to a conclusion, I really won't be dumb enough to ever say it is written in stone... because after all it will only apply to this razor on these strops and most importantly in my hands...

Sorry if I came out wrong (if it was my post you were reacting to): I didn't mean to force you to make cutting-edge science with this experiment.

Thanks for pointing out the caveats. I know it is quite subjective, but as you yourself said the pasted strops is quite ... effective in the hands that don't know how to use it. So it is quite good that someone with experience tries this thing out and reports subjectively. Beginners might not realise the subjectivity and limitations of their own experiences.

Anyway, thanks again for doing this.

Thanks for doing this. It will be great to see what happens in the hands of an expert. I have been using a paddle strop to finish my honing sessions but it will be good to see your results.

Later,
Richard

wow, 2 pages!

Just think how long this thread will be once Glen actually does something!

I would like to see some prediction posts! It is not everyday that the human variable is almost eliminated, not that Lynn is a machine mind you . There simply are not a lot of people that have the amount of experience that he has so the "mistake" part of the equations is very, very low.

I predict that he is going to be able to keep the razor going about 2 months worth of shaves. The edge will need paste stropping sooner than 7 days eventually to stay sharp and the hones will be needed to start the 7 day cycle over again.

Take Care,
Richard

I am glad to see the experiment and look forward to the results. Did you select diamond because of the quick cut, or is it a preference?

Originally Posted by ursus

Sorry if I came out wrong (if it was my post you were reacting to): I didn't mean to force you to make cutting-edge science with this experiment.

Thanks for pointing out the caveats. I know it is quite subjective, but as you yourself said the pasted strops is quite ... effective in the hands that don't know how to use it. So it is quite good that someone with experience tries this thing out and reports subjectively. Beginners might not realise the subjectivity and limitations of their own experiences.

Anyway, thanks again for doing this.

I believe gssixgun was addressing BeBerlin.

JMS:
I believe gssixgun was addressing BeBerlin.


"The Mark" is right as usual

Riooso:
I would like to see some prediction posts! It is not everyday that the human variable is almost eliminated, not that Lynn is a machine mind you . There simply are not a lot of people that have the amount of experience that he has so the "mistake" part of the equations is very, very low.

I predict that he is going to be able to keep the razor going about 2 months worth of shaves. The edge will need paste stropping sooner than 7 days eventually to stay sharp and the hones will be needed to start the 7 day cycle over again.


Hehehe The predictions remind me of another experiment thread way back when "The Tumbler Experiment"... Oh yeah BTW it's Glen, and yer wrong Lynn is a "Machine"



Bladerunner:
I am glad to see the experiment and look forward to the results. Did you select diamond because of the quick cut, or is it a preference?


I selected the Strop and Paste combo because they are fairly new to the forum and I am pretty sure nobody has used exactly that for an experiment before,, Also the Diamond because I really am trying to get the edge to fail here so I figured the .50 and.25 Diamond would make that happen the fastest....

My fixed straights have been in use for over 9 months and still work great and I like them sharp. My trusty pasted paddle strop seems to be cheating the real honing process or putting it off for who knows how long. That is my big experiement.

Pabster

I love this kind of personal experiments.

I'm not shy of a prediction.

In Belgium, there's a famous store in Antwerp that organizes quite successful straight razor shaving and straight razor sharpening courses. The honing method they teach has been described on SRP before. They rely heavily on Dovo red paste on a loom strop to get the edge up to par.
I have rehoned my share of those edges. In most cases the bevel faces are seriously rounded (convexed). I know this because it takes hard work to get them straight again. At the microscope, I can see new, straight bevel faces very slowly growing towards the very edge. The most occurring mistake made is that the owner fails to reestablish flat bevel sides, once his convex edge became so rounded that it stops responding to a touch up at the pasted strop.
Based on that experience, I predict that you are going to have nice shaves, till the convexity introduced by your pasted strop becomes too round at the very tip. Once that happens, you'll have no choice but to restore flat bevels.
Being unfamiliar with the diamond sprays, I'm not sure how many touch ups it is going to take. My educated guess, it being a hanging strop, your lap count and the fact diamond is pretty fast acting, I'd say 4-5 touch-ups.

There, my money's on the table.

Best regards,
Bart.

Actually, I have been using pastes and sprays for several years now and they do a really nice job finishing the edges. Some better and more consistent with others. I have found that the edges last just as long as an edge un-treated and the "convexity" has never been an issue. Many people extent the life of the edge for a long time utilizing pastes and sprays.

I have never had an issue with regard to getting a bevel flat again as the amount if convexity has never been apparent. I do not live under a microscope when honing. Do occasionally have a look though and especially when I perceive a problem. I really enjoy the art more than the science.

This will be interesting.

Lynn

Originally Posted by Bart

I love this kind of personal experiments.

I'm not shy of a prediction.

In Belgium, there's a famous store in Antwerp that organizes quite successful straight razor shaving and straight razor sharpening courses. The honing method they teach has been described on SRP before. They rely heavily on Dovo red paste on a loom strop to get the edge up to par.
I have rehoned my share of those edges. In most cases the bevel faces are seriously rounded (convexed). I know this because it takes hard work to get them straight again. At the microscope, I can see new, straight bevel faces very slowly growing towards the very edge. The most occurring mistake made is that the owner fails to reestablish flat bevel sides, once his convex edge became so rounded that it stops responding to a touch up at the pasted strop.
Based on that experience, I predict that you are going to have nice shaves, till the convexity introduced by your pasted strop becomes too round at the very tip. Once that happens, you'll have no choice but to restore flat bevels.
Being unfamiliar with the diamond sprays, I'm not sure how many touch ups it is going to take. My educated guess, it being a hanging strop, your lap count and the fact diamond is pretty fast acting, I'd say 4-5 touch-ups.

There, my money's on the table.

Best regards,
Bart.