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    Ed, Thanks for the compliment mate. It is coming together slowly but surely.

    Started work on the scales trying to straighten the slight warp in them.
    After several tries with the hair dryer no real change was seen. Here is the process i tried.
    The scales were heated up on high setting with the hair dryer held about 1&1/2 inches from scales. I'm not sure how long to apply the heat and don't want to destroy them. When I felt they were ready (quite warm to the touch) placed them on a piece of 2 x 1" pine and then sat my DMT 325 plate on top of them to provide weight - scales loked flat on the piece of pine. After about 30 mins cooling off time, I checked how things were going. Tried varying the heat times but no real change happened. Tried flipping the scales other way up and tried several more times. Still no real change.

    Next effort was try hot water - boiled water on stove top and let cool about 20 seconds. Dunk one scale -the one with the warp - in the hot water for about 30 seconds and lift out with tongs and set up same as before - scale flat on wood weighted down with the DMT plate. After 3 attempts and extending the times in hot water by another 10 seconds each time it looked better - but still had a bow in it.
    Worked with other scale and got a small improvement with just a small bow in it now.
    Then had to clean up the water scale deposits that formed from the dunks in hot tap water - noticed what could be a sign of trouble with one of the scales.
    It looks like there are 3 small cracks in the pivot end of the front scale starting at the pivot pin hole. Could the hot water have caused this problem? Can it be overcome with a thin thrust washer glued in there (I would do it both sides for consistent looks) to strengthen the whole pivot pin area?
    I'm very interested to hear what other restorers may recommend in this situation.
    Thanks in advance for any advise and tips given - pics attached below.

    First pic shows the pivot pin area
    Next 2 show the bow in the scales
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    I don't know how much straighter you want them bro... They look pretty darn straight to me!

    I am thinking maybe the wood as a backer had too much "give" to it?

    I straightened mine with a HEAT GUN.

    Held the scale in my hand and heated it just enough so as not to burn my hand then I layed them on the table of my bench scroll saw and pressed down with my fingers.

    It was COLD out so the metal was quite cold also. It only took about 5 minutes for each scale to get straight...or as straight as I liked them.

    As for the pivot area, I might try putting some Super Glue there to fill in the cracks and then sanding it down flat. You have thrust washers going there anyways so I do believe that it "should" provide enough stability for this. Maybe gluing the washers there could work also?
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    Those scales are layered. The white (inside) is almost all the scale with the pearl looking part a layer covering it. I would fill the cracks with Ca glue or a good epoxy and not sweat it. If your trying to get bends out and not twists try to use over bend method. In other words put some tape on the scales (not a lot) so that the part that is staying bent (won't straighten) will bend a little farther when you straighten between boards. You just want to do it enough to take out the memory.
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    Tried the over bend method with one scale and took it a little too much the other way, result in a bend near the middle of the scale and the rest of it looks like before I started to work it. I think too much heat in one spot with the hair dryer caused this. I think that's going to be tricky to sort out
    So it's time to ask whether the scales are possible to save.
    Pic below to show what I have at the moment.
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    i decided to live with this result even if it is not what I am really happy with.
    Thanks to everybody for their input and guidance.
    I will post up more pics when I can.
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    Once you test pin it you can decide if it is what you are okay with or not.
    Do it right the first time because you will regret it if you don't.
    Make SURE you are happy with the results...
    DON'T SETTLE...
    YOU CAN DO IT BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Having some difficulty getting one scale to stay straight, it seems to bow again a few hours later. Not sure what to do to fix this issue.
    Maybe remove the inlays.? Thoughts and suggestions welcome. Thanks for your help Ed Email sent

    Quote Originally Posted by Chevhead View Post
    Once you test pin it you can decide if it is what you are okay with or not.
    Do it right the first time because you will regret it if you don't.
    Make SURE you are happy with the results...
    DON'T SETTLE...
    YOU CAN DO IT BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    If you decide to remove the inlays the scales are DONE!
    The acetone will eat them up and they will be TOAST!

    How does it look when it is mocked up?
    If it looks okay when it is put together with the screws then it is good to go.

    I believe there will be some bowing/bending going on anyways because of the 3rd pin and the design.

    It is really all up to you on what you can live with.
    If the bowing/bending is too much for your liking you will not be happy.
    If you can live with it....only you will know and notice it. (except for the thousands of people on here..LOL)

    Didn't receive an e-mail from you as of yet....

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    @Ed Sent email again == seemed to be locked up in outbox folder
    Hope it turns up this time
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyBeeroun222 View Post
    @Ed Sent email again == seemed to be locked up in outbox folder
    Hope it turns up this time
    Yep got it!

    Ed

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