I'm very sorry, I meant to add a photo of what it would look like when done. Right now it has small cap screws holding it together!
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I'm very sorry, I meant to add a photo of what it would look like when done. Right now it has small cap screws holding it together!
Check out the razor clubs. LINK: Razor Clubs - Page 4
If there are no F, Fenney enthusiasts, you should start one :)
Converting a rip saw blade into knife/saw combo
What is the thickness of this blade ?
Here is a C T Bingham, Late F Fenney blade I plan on restoring soon. It reads "In For The Prize At The Exhibition 1853" with Tally Ho & the fox in the center.
Nice blade.
Just a suggestion, I'd hit that with a little metal polish, and make sure there's no active rust and that's it. You'll save that nice big etching, and also some of that beautiful patina. Rescale in some horn, and Bobs yer uncle.
Sanding or buffing that nice old blade would be a sin. Just my opinion though. :)
Buffing or sanding on an old piece like that is a no-no! Thanks.
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I knocked off at 3 PM today, jumped in my lil camo golf cart and went to the mailbox and to my delight, the Greaves and Son Sheafworks razor I sniped earlier this week on Ebay was there. I drove straight back to the shop, mixed a tall Bombay Sapphire and tonic, and got to work. Obviously the scales were toast, so I removed them. I got the blade shined up and removed the major pits with 320 grit greaseless, and then polished it up with Emory, Brown Corsican, White Diamond, and jewelers rouge buffing compounds. I have several pair of new buffalo horn scales on hand for just these eventualities, fired up the 1 x 30 belt sander, fitted up the scales, got her mounted and was inside by 5:30 soaking the norton stones. With any luck I will shave with this bad boy tomorrow morning :) Not sure if I am getting better at this , but the gin and tonics didn't hurt ... lol :)
I saw that one & you got a deal on it! You did great work on it too. Congrats!!!!!
Moving my shop again,huge PITA.
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Thanks Engine46... I have been on the lookout for a Greaves and Sons and I got exactly what I was looking for. The blade is in good shape with next to no hone wear at all for its age. This one will definitely be a keeper for my collection :) Now its time to start culling the herd and putting a few back in circulation on Ebay. With any luck I can make enough profit to feed my un-ending RAD addiction :)
I love W Graves & Sons razors. Have you read up on their history on here? I think I must have around 5 Wm Greaves & Sons razors & right at 22 W Greaves & Sons razors. I actually bid on that razor but I had financial issues so I didn't follow through or we might have been sniping at each other! I actually got a W Greaves & Sons today in the mail that I won for under $35 which I think was a good deal. They are one of my favorite vintage cutlers.
Engine46,
I have 2 W. Greaves and sons at the moment, and I love them. I actually bought my first straight razor on May 1 of this year, a new Dovo, shortly thereafter I got a new Ralf Aust from SRD as well. Along with them I have gotten the following off of Ebay and restored them all to shaving condition, 2 Wade and Butchers, a Boker, a Torrey, 2 W.R. Case and Sons, a dubl duck goldenedge, a Robeson, a J. Henckels, 2 Joseph Rodgers $ Sons, and a Frederick Reynolds. I also have 7 various vintage razors in the shop that I got in "Lot" sales that I am still working on. I kind of got the "bug" when I started on here. I watched all of the video's on restoration from all of the guys on here, not to mention the honing and stropping video's. I set up a dedicated razor shop in my little barn, and got a full progression of stones. What is funny is that I had zero awareness of straight razor shaving until May, and since finding this place and getting involved, it is amazing the number of people I have bumped into that are into it. 2 of my clients are actually straight razor shavers, both of whom used to send their razors off to be re-honed and both of whom I now hone their razors for them. This is a great hobby and I am really glad I found this place, where I have gleaned sooooo much information from the members. It saved me a tremendous amount of time and learning curve. Thanks for the kind words, I will endeavor to catch up with you on the Greaves collection at some point...lol. Time to run out to my shop, I have 2 sets of original buffalo horn scales that I "Hornoxied" and sanded , soaking in neatsfoot oil. With any luck I will get them finished up and mount their blades on them today :) Its not just a hobby ... its an addiction ... LOL
Greaves are one of my favorites as well, I have two. One is out for a restore, and this one is always a pleasure to use:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/membe...eel-razors.jpg
And this one is one of my Holy Grail blades, been looking for this one for a long time, that was restored by Valery at the Gentleman's Den, my hopes of ever finding one, like most Greaves razors, are slim:
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I love all my Greaves. Like i said in another post, they are about my favorite vintage cutler there is. If you haven't done so yet, read up on their history on here: A brief history of William Greaves & Sons
It is very interesting which made them about my favorite. BTW, nice razors you have there. Here are just a couple of my favorites. I have close to thirty just in Greaves. Many of them are very old. The one with the black horn scales is a Wm Greaves & Sons & the one in honey horn is a W Greaves & Sons. They are both shave ready.
I can see ya got good taste in your razors Phrank!
Here's the Greaves SRP member rbaker2778 was kind enough to allow me to acquire, it's off to be restored, and brought back to life...the pic does not do this blade justice, it is a truly wonderful piece of history, and really can't wait to see it when it's done.
Having shaved with one of his blades, a W&B Magnum Bonum, I will also tell you he puts a superb edge on a blade, he's humble, but he's got some serious honing skills IMO!:D
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I set up a buffer on a work bench and surrounded the bench with roll-up walls of polyethylene sheeting. A few days ago, I thought I was finished with building things and was ready to start learning to use the buffer. I got inside the sheeting to start using the buffer and realized I had walled myself out of easy access to buffing compound, polishers, and buffing wheels. Duh! So I built a little cart on wheels that I could roll under the work bench.
Here it is rolled out:
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And here is rolled under the bench, out of the way, but providing ready access to compounds and buffing wheels:
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When I'm not buffing and need to sit at the work bench, I can store the cart in a closet nearby.
The gray box behind the buffer has an outlet at the back for a hose connected to the dust collector. The dust collector is suspended on a platform above head level:
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I'm working within tight limitations of space, so I've made the work area as compact as possible. Above the work bench, as part of the air filtering system, I put up a fan on a platform and attached a dust filter to the back of the fan:
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I think this really is the last of the construction! I've been watching videos and reading forum postings on buffing. Just about ready to leap in, or rather, edge in, cautiously. Got a leather apron, a respirator, goggles. Taking hints from forum postings, today I also ordered a face shield and some kevlar gloves. Here's hoping I get up a good distance on the learning curve without wrecking a blade or damaging a hand.
Joe
Feels good to make something doesn't it.
I'm working on learning on the buffer I built/here:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...-part-one.html
This what my friend PWH sent:
"Roy, take this little formula to figure your speed:
rpm of motor divided by the diameter of the pulley.
Use this as an example.
1750 rpm divided by 6" pulley=291
291rpm divided by 3" pulley = 97 rpm
A 10 inch wheel will run 97 rpm. So will a 6 inch wheel.
The surface speed is a different matter though. You might want to drop down to a smaller wheel:
A 10" wheel at 97 rpm is running 3,048 inches per minute.
A 6" wheel at 97 rpm is running 1,828 inches per minute
Formula to figure surface speeds of wheels:
10" x 3.1416 x 97 = surface inches per minute.
6" x 3.1416 x 97 = surface inches per minute".
I then contacted a friend who is a very accomplished straight razor restoration expert and he recommended going with 4" buffing wheels not only because they produced less heat BUT they would allow me to get into the tight radius that straight razors have.:tu
Speed produces Heat and that's why I built my buffer.
I hope this helps :shrug:
It does help. Thank you! I wish I had gotten this information sooner, so that I had not stocked up on a whole lot of expensive 8" and 10" wheels :banghead:. Maybe I'll check into selling them on eBay. Meanwhile, I'll order some 4" wheels. Makes good sense.
If anybody out there wants a good deal on 8" and 10" wheels--sewn, open, treated, and canton--do let me know.
Joe
Little WIP of two pairs of scales made for a friend.
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The second has to be finished. The blades are from Thiers-Issard, and the scales are inspired by the old models of Heljestrand in tortoise.
(I can't however pretend that mines are finished as well as they were in the Kindal house ^^)
Edit : the original scales were those ones :
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I'm reading Caswell's online introduction to buffing:
How To Buff And Polish - Caswell Inc
They give a table of thicknesses allowable for given motor sizes and wheel diameters. For instance, if you are using a buffer with a 3/4 horse power motor and are using wheels with a diameter of 4 inches, the maximum allowable width is 4.5". They say, "you may use multiple wheels to make up total permissible width." So if you were using wheels 4" in diameter and 1/2" wide, you could, theoretically, put up to eight wheels on a spindle.
I ordered a bunch of 4" wheels this morning and am thinking about putting multiple wheels on the buffer. Has anyone here done that? Any thoughts on how it works with razors?
Joe
Well, I finally finished up my scales for it & put my Fred Fenney back together today. I was trying to find my before & after pics of the blade I had a friend regrind for me but couldn't find them. I did have it in here a few weeks ago but it had a different set of similar scales on it & was temporarily put together with small cap screws I got from Micro Fasteners. This time it is done!
Totally beautiful. Love the blade shape and the scales compliment it and the period of it well!
~Richard
Thank you Richard, greatly appreciated!
Very nice. Whoever did the regrind did a great job. They deserve a thanks for that job.
The person that did the regrind is known but he mainly does it for himself so I won't mention him. Believe me, he gets plenty of thanks from me!!! I'll thank him for you guys as well! I'm waiting on three more from him now. I'm waiting on two Thomas Turner blades & a Joseph Rodgers & Sons. I have a Joseph Elliot he reground that I rebuilt which I'll list soon. I'm wanting to get into it but I'm waiting on my disability so I can build a buffer/grinder. I have already gotten some information for plans from another member on here, cudarunner on a build he's been working on & many thanks go out to him & a few others.
Thanks for the mention about my buffer :bow
You can make something very similar by just making two of the cutout stands like the speed reducer has/that is if you want a variable speed buffer. It wouldn't have the Mass/Weight but would function similarly. If you only want a single speed then a single stand would suffice. That would reduce the options of speeds but also simplify the spacing of the motor to the final drive.
This link will help you:
Pulley, Diameter and Belt Size Calculator
The shafting must be high quality and straight. Cold Rolled doesn't work/I know as I tried using it!
If you need to know more about the wooden stands or anything else just let me know! :tu
Gorgeous - nice and clean, the way I like em'...know I get in trouble for saying this, but patina will never be anything other than dirt to me...I want to see the water bead off the blade and it tell me if I need to trim my nose hairs!
Love it...
Thanks Phrank!
Very nicely finished. The color and shape of the scales are beautiful.
Dirt, Phrank? LOL