Thread: Otto Deutsch 6/8ths I need help. Order of operation vs. Leave it alone

Sorry off topic.
But I love this photo, especially the bench in the back ground, It confirms for me that I'm not the only one with bits & pieces everywehere on the bench while im working LOL.
I am in awe of some workshop spaces I have seen here but this is reality for me. especially considering I used about only 2' of bench space for several months until I re-organised all my crap in the shed to reclaim the other 3' odd

Originally Posted by sharptonn

I have written about the 3M before. In my automotive work, I have used it for years on plastic and rubber parts. It goes in and rejuvenates, brings back flexibility and color. Some will say it does no good on celluloid, but I am a believer. I have many rot-prone scales in my collection. I treat them once a year. I clean the scales with diluted simple green and a toothbrush, after drying well, I slather the scales inside and out. Let it sit on a hard surface, turn over a few times. Repeat next day. Let sit another day.There should be little excess to wipe off after. Makes the colors pop again. Seems to keep the rot at bay, for me, anyway!

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As to the crack, I would suggest taking the blade back past the crack in original configuration.
A razor like this with a barber's notch would not look right, JMO.

great tip tom!
as for the barbers notch idea- I say try a minimal notch and see if its to your liking and you can always grind to originl configuration if its not. there is a problem with notching hollow grounds though and theres a reason why you don't have full hollows with notches. that little bit of toe under the notch will be too "flexy" and likely to be harder to keep honed properly (yes ive seen it). notching also creates more opportunity to catch on something and this will be a weak point that if stressed enough could crack your blade down the length (yes ive seen it). on full hollows the blade is often ground so thin in cross section that when notching it the notch will be very sharp itself and can cause injury if not properly handled (yes ive seen it). but again, you may like the aesthetic and if you are a careful user then it may work for you

Originally Posted by silverloaf

great tip tom!
as for the barbers notch idea- I say try a minimal notch and see if its to your liking and you can always grind to originl configuration if its not. there is a problem with notching hollow grounds though and theres a reason why you don't have full hollows with notches. that little bit of toe under the notch will be too "flexy" and likely to be harder to keep honed properly (yes ive seen it). notching also creates more opportunity to catch on something and this will be a weak point that if stressed enough could crack your blade down the length (yes ive seen it). on full hollows the blade is often ground so thin in cross section that when notching it the notch will be very sharp itself and can cause injury if not properly handled (yes ive seen it). but again, you may like the aesthetic and if you are a careful user then it may work for you

Very good point never thought of that. I was in contact with original owner, a true gentleman, He suggested keeping this as true to original as possible. I would like to restore it for the next generation of wet shavers. Preservation is my prime concern. Day 2 post sanding, blade open and all is well.

Originally Posted by Substance

Sorry off topic.
But I love this photo, especially the bench in the back ground, It confirms for me that I'm not the only one with bits & pieces everywehere on the bench while im working LOL.
I am in awe of some workshop spaces I have seen here but this is reality for me. especially considering I used about only 2' of bench space for several months until I re-organised all my crap in the shed to reclaim the other 3' odd

Ha ! You should see my 5' work bench clutter. Bandsaw, 2 grinders, small vise, Dremel stand & a box in the corner just to limit space.


I would say the wedge is gassing off as well with the toe that rusty. I would hunt down some green acylic & rebuild the scales & shorten the tip to original. I agree a barber's notch would look wrong.

Try moving 4K lbs of stuff yourself and cannot find what you need to get all back in working condition

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

Try moving 4K lbs of stuff yourself and cannot find what you need to get all back in working condition

Now that is what I call a microscope, not to mention the other gear ........ one helluva microscope though !

On the upside it's a short walk to each machine.

And normally having spare nuts and bolts in the work shop would be a good thing
Until you remember where they were meant to be

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Now that is what I call a microscope, not to mention the other gear ........ one helluva microscope though !

Great scope,just put on local Craigslist.that base wgts 30 lbs

Originally Posted by sharptonn

I have written about the 3M before. In my automotive work, I have used it for years on plastic and rubber parts. It goes in and rejuvenates, brings back flexibility and color. Some will say it does no good on celluloid, but I am a believer. I have many rot-prone scales in my collection. I treat them once a year. I clean the scales with diluted simple green and a toothbrush, after drying well, I slather the scales inside and out. Let it sit on a hard surface, turn over a few times. Repeat next day. Let sit another day.There should be little excess to wipe off after. Makes the colors pop again. Seems to keep the rot at bay, for me, anyway!


As to the crack, I would suggest taking the blade back past the crack in original configuration.
A razor like this with a barber's notch would not look right, JMO.

Are you saying you used the silicone on scales already showing signs of rot and it stopped it? or you used it on scales that have not yet rotted? Because there is NO doubt in my mind that poor Otto is in its rotting stage.
I would seriously consider sending the blade to a pro for shortening. That crack is in a rough location, and the wrong move could cause it to spread. and no barbers notch. =)