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    Get some flush cutting cutters. About $20
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolodave View Post
    Get some flush cutting cutters. About $20
    I have a pair and if you don't mind wrecking the washers that is the way to go.
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    As has been said, if you don't care about the washers flush cutters work very well.

    A highly respected member and pro honer/restorer here turned me onto these cutters:

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    He does grind the down side more flush and said that he'll get around 3 months of steady usage out of one.

    Yes I do use them
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    Quote Originally Posted by cudarunner View Post
    As has been said, if you don't care about the washers flush cutters work very well.

    A highly respected member and pro honer/restorer here turned me onto these cutters:

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    He does grind the down side more flush and said that he'll get around 3 months of steady usage out of one.

    Yes I do use them
    Did you grind yours?

    If you did, what did you use?

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    I used my tabletop belt sander and a 120 grit belt. I figured that with the flat backing it would help keep things flat. I've been using mine for at least 3 years and if memory serves I used a hard rubber sanding block and some finer sandpaper to remove the deep scratches but I don't think they would have affected how they clipped.

    When I visited with my friend Mr Clean we picked him up a pair and used his belt sander.

    I suppose a diamond plate would also work. Probably just slower.

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    I prefer to save the collars, so I drill the head of pin off, and push the pin thru. Have yet to break a scale this way, and I don't use a drill press

    If you ever work with ivory, Steve. You'll want to learn to drill them out, cause they don't have collars typically, and breaks easily under a sudden shock/impact.

    What looks like a collar in this picture, is actually the head off the pin from this set of Ivory scales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    I prefer to save the collars, so I drill the head of pin off, and push the pin thru. Have yet to break a scale this way, and I don't use a drill press

    If you ever work with ivory, Steve. You'll want to learn to drill them out, cause they don't have collars typically, and breaks easily under a sudden shock/impact.

    What looks like a collar in this picture, is actually the head off the pin from this set of Ivory scales.

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    Hi Mike,

    So, can you explain a bit more how you drill off the heads of the pins with a drill?

    Do you use a full size drill or a dremel?

    I have a Dewalt battery drill/screwdriver, will that do the job? It feels pretty big for such a small job.

    I have a Dremel somewhere that might be a better size if it can be done with that.

    What size drill bit do you use, and how do you stop the drill slipping off? Tape over or around the pin? Looks like a 1/16.

    Also, where do you get the brass rods (pin material) and washers etc?

    Last question Mike.

    Where do you get the scale material and do you make them or buy them pre made?

    Thanks.

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    Hey, Steve. Sure, no problem. Let's start with your last question. As for scales, I prefer to use the original scales.
    I've bought many razors that have a busted scale, and good blade, and some with junk blades and good scales, so I have a small cache of scales to work with to make a set from. I've also been gifted scales ,or materials to make them from. Most of my scale making, is with wood. Not that I can't work with other materials, I just love the different patterns that the grain in wood, reveals. It can't be duplicated, and each 1/8 inch cut reveals something different. Then the coats of Tru-Oil bring it to life.

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    I've also have stores that I can buy some exotic woods from, and I'm only 5 miles from America's largest hardware store. ( Hartvillehardware )

    As for removing the pin...

    File a flat spot on the pin head, then I use a pin vise with a 1/16 inch, centering drill bit, to mark the center as close as possible with a few twists from my hand.

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    Then I use a cordless screwdriver that has a 1/4 inch chuck, and use the 1/16 drill bits that have the 1/4 inch lugs. Using light pressure, I'll drill a few seconds and check with my magnifying glass to make sure I'm staying centered.

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    Keep drilling and checking your staying centered, and the next thing you'll know, is the collar is spinning on the drill bit. Make sure the pin isn't flared, or has a burr sticking off of it, before you push it out. Make sure to support the opposite side of the scales from what your pushing.

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    My screwdriver is geared pretty slow, maybe 60 rpm. Its slow, but I'm not in a rush, its about keeping them as original as possible, for me. Only substitute when all options are gone, or I should say...have rotted away.

    You can also use a dulled DE blade to protect the scales when using the file method.

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