Thread: Loose pin, or oversized hole?

I purchased an Allen and Sons razor a while back and just got it sharpened through SRD, gave it a shave, but having a loose blade just makes it seem unsteady. I know the blade moves a bit on the pin, i'd like to fix it, but don't want to ruin the decorative scales. Is there I can discover the culprit, and if so, what should be my next step?

Hmmmm.

Loose pins will make a blade swing freely...
Oversized hole can make the blade jiggle when it's got loose pins. Does your blade move back and forth on the pin when you hold it?

Tighten the pins with the back of a soup spoon, light light taps. See where that goes.

Originally Posted by Maxi

Hmmmm.

Loose pins will make a blade swing freely...
Oversized hole can make the blade jiggle when it's got loose pins. Does your blade move back and forth on the pin when you hold it?

Tighten the pins with the back of a soup spoon, light light taps. See where that goes.

Yes the blade moves on the pin when I hold it, I can shift it forward and back when holdin the scale, so I assume from what you've said it's an oversized hole...now what?

Unpin the razor and sleeve the pivot.

I use brass tube. Get a piece that is 1/16" inside diameter. Cut a section a little longer than width of tang at pivot. A utility knife works good for me as I roll the tube on hard surface. Place cut section in pivot, and with a center punch to fit the sleeve in the hole, repeat on other side.

Put a piece of 1/16 rod in the finished sleeve to be certain it is straight. If not, drill the brass sleeve to square up.

If very worn, may need to telescope the next size tube, having double layers.

Others instead will fill with epoxy like jb weld and drill it out when dry


Glenn did a nice post about it, and in additional comments are part numbers for popular brand of tube used if need to order

http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...zed-pivot.html

before you unpin, try to tighten the pin.
If that does not work re-pin.
Sleeving does not always work well, if the pin hole is punched and is not striaght sleeving will cause the razor to close off center and may be even hit the scales. Id there is such problem with the pin hole you will need to first fix it before sleeving.

I will definitely try to tighten the pin first, as that may help. However I am already at the point where the razor does not close centered. I have access to all the restor gear I may need as I work in a metalshop. Hopefully tightening the pin works or it's off to harbor freight for some brass rods.

I've never noticed any ill effects of an oversized hole when repinning, unless the whole is so big that the thrust washers (if used) fall into the hole. But I wouldn't consider myself an experienced rescaler by any means; I have not done that many razors.

another option is to use steel epoxy. I've done that a couple times. Mix it externally from the razor, and apply with a pin or toothpick. Dry. Drill a new hole at 5/64". Use 1/16" rod to re-pin the razor.

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

I've never noticed any ill effects of an oversized hole when repinning, unless the whole is so big that the thrust washers (if used) fall into the hole. But I wouldn't consider myself an experienced rescaler by any means; I have not done that many razors.

By my experience you are correct, most of the time there is no problem at all. The only thing that happens when the pin hole is oversized is the tang will have room to move up and down. When there is need to sleeve the hole, one has to make sure it is straight, most of the time they are punched not very straight which can cause the blade to sit askew and hit the scales.

Now in regards to building a repair/restoration type kit, where would I start? A hardware store or hobby store? Harbor Freight? Home depot, etc.? Also what are the bare essentials in your opinion as a "starter kit"?