[QUOTE=Euclid440;1451089]I do have one of these stones, the so called 12-15k and mine is not anywhere near 8K much less 12K.,,,,,,,,,,

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"I do have one of these stones, the so called 12-15k and mine is not anywhere near 8K much less 12K."

I can't imagine why anyone with a 20K Japanese rock, or finishes on CrO pasted strop, or thinks "We see these claims all the time, with ”new stones”. It is just another slate. Yes they can produce a shaveable edge, as I said, in capable hands, the best, keenest, most comfortable edge…no." would purchase one of these? Maybe yours was mismarked, or maybe you could have just told us that you did not have the same results?

"The BS is that anyone can tell the difference in the sound a razor makes cutting a single hair, as to a razor’s keenness. I have never heard anyone make this claim."
So maybe it was an anomaly? Maybe your hearing is not as acute? Maybe his angle was a little different? Maybe you don't listen to the noise of your razor on the hone? None a good reason to blast the guy, or anyone else here. You want to talk about BS?

"I don’t think you are making this claim and we are not talking about stropping, and was not even talking about you or your edges. "

I am one of the ones here getting excellent edges!

"I assumed the OP was fairly new to honing as he said he only had experience with Norton hones and took 2 hours to lap a soft slate hone on 320 W&D."

Yep, does seem a little anal. 600 grit diamond should have worked just fine(if he has one) in 15 min max.

"So if he has an 8k Norton, using this stone, he is probably going backwards in progression."

Kind of like going from 20K Japanese rock, to CrO pasted strop? As mentioned in your other posts?
You have added a small amount of positive here, but it is surrounded by negative. If you don't like the stone, think the poster makes it sound too easy, or just disagree with the whole direction here, why not just say that and be done with it?
Again, with all due respect.