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Thread: Shapton Mounting System
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06-13-2009, 05:00 PM #1
Shapton Mounting System
If your like me, you bought a Shapton, but didn't spring for the full options package, I.E. No DGLP, (you don't really need it, a DMT D8XX or D8C works fine) and you didn't buy the holder...You don't need it, but that is one skinny hone, I tried to come up with a way to raise it off the table/counter so you don't drag your knuckles when you hone.
You could flip a Norton Blue plactic box and use that, or you could do what I did. These are large rubber wheels used in Automated Machinery.
They work great as rubbber feet for a shapton in conjunction with a rubber mat. I use the stuff you line tool boxes with. It is perforated, so water drains through and it's machine washable, plus it feels rubbery, so it'll hold any hone like glue. I took some pics, you get the idea. Sorry, My camera sux, this is the best I could do. I have a limited number of rubber feet, if anyone would like some, just pay me shipping. 2.50 should cover anywhere in the U.S.....
P.S. Rubber Matting not included, Available at Home Depot, Lowes, etc....Last edited by zib; 06-13-2009 at 05:02 PM.
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06-13-2009, 05:14 PM #2
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Thanked: 402Great idea!
I always stack the narrow ones onto another.
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06-13-2009, 05:39 PM #3
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06-13-2009, 05:40 PM #4
Very cool idea Rich.
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06-13-2009, 05:47 PM #5
That's good Red Neck Engineering if I ever seen it.
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06-13-2009, 06:16 PM #6
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Zib its better with those wheels because you keep your hones cleaner.
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06-13-2009, 06:41 PM #7
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06-14-2009, 12:40 AM #8
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That's a good solution, as long as it works the ends justify the means!
To quite honest, the lack of a stone holder for the glass when they first came out 3 years ago was one of the factors in determining why I didn't pick them up as a retailer back then.
Not to mention the fact that they are all the same color is inconvenient for fast identification. They shouldn't be stored face down, and I don't want to be picking every stone up and turning it over to see which one is which all the time.
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06-14-2009, 07:10 PM #9
You've hit on the problem. How do you measure whether or not it works? I can tell you flat out (heh, heh) that the more fully supportive Shapton stone holder will hold the stone dead flat. Why is that important? Because the blade will take the shape of a stone and as you're going through the progression, you'll get differential pressure on different parts of the blade. You may be using a Shapton this way but it's not giving you it's potential.
Flatness is a technical subject and different from "lay" flatness. I had a metrologist here who has equipment that can measure the height difference on a stone based on where your hand was on it (heat expands the stone) for just a few seconds. Likewise, as you move a blade down a stone, the stone flexes and flatness is out the window.
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06-15-2009, 12:12 AM #10
Point taken, Howard, but I can't justify spending 160.00 on something that justs holds the stone, on a hone that I rarely use. That holder cost's more that the stone, most folks don't buy em! Like the 300 dollar DGLP, Push comes to shove, I'll just lay the thing back on the counter. I've considered using a third support in the middle, but it seems the difference is negligible. Since you brought it up, when I use it, I'll use a third support, that should take care of it. It's not like I'm putting much pressure on it. I respect your input, I know you sell these among other things, and your well respected in the community, However, as I said, this is my one and only Shapton, Since I have an army of other hones at my disposal, and all my razors are shave ready, The shapton get's used rarely. Heck, I could build a solid wood base, rubber lined...problem solved...In the mean time, looks like a third support is in order.
I hope I never use that much pressure that sag becomes and issue and I hope these Shapton's aren't that cheaply made that they sag either. You actually had a metrologist come to your house and measure heat variations in hones? Since I don't know any of those guys, I guess I'll measure how mine works the old fashioned way, by shaving...Last edited by zib; 06-15-2009 at 12:20 AM.
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