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    Quote Originally Posted by heirkb View Post
    I think he meant for raising slurry, not honing directly on the Atoma. Do you have any experience with using the Atoma to raise slurry?
    Yep, that's what I meant.

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    Nicley Done Stefan...

    I might have to give this system a try on my Nakayama it is a pretty hard stone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Nicley Done Stefan...

    I might have to give this system a try on my Nakayama it is a pretty hard stone...
    Should work well for you Glen. I have been using my Nakayama Kiita (very hard) with Botan, Mejiro Naguras followed by Tomonagura with excellent results. The dilution that Stefan is doing in the video really helped me out, it somehow helps the edge move into "progression", if that's the correct way to put it...?

    My results before using the dilution steps weren't nearly as smooth or sharp as they are now, thanks, Stefan!

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    I can't thank you enough for these videos and this thread. I will watch and read everything over and over again. So much to learn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassguy View Post
    I can't thank you enough for these videos and this thread. I will watch and read everything over and over again. So much to learn!
    Ditto!

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    Nice job Stefan & nothing wrong with honing in socks . It helps soak up the slurry you might drop. I speak from experience

    Serious question tho. I may have missed the info somewhere but what is the starting point here ? Razor with bevel already set on 1k or similar ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by onimaru55 View Post
    Nice job Stefan & nothing wrong with honing in socks . It helps soak up the slurry you might drop. I speak from experience

    Serious question tho. I may have missed the info somewhere but what is the starting point here ? Razor with bevel already set on 1k or similar ?
    yes the bevel was set on 1k Chosera.
    I have never tried setting a bevel with naguras, but I believe JimR has tried and it takes quite a bit of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    yes the bevel was set on 1k Chosera.
    I have never tried setting a bevel with naguras, but I believe JimR has tried and it takes quite a bit of time.
    Hours. 3-4 at least. On a full hollow with a small bevel.

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    Thanx guys. That's well worth knowing.
    Always happy to learn from others experiences Jim Geez 3-4 hours is taking a hit for the team mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    I used to use it a lot but recently I've been using tomonaguras exclusively.
    I read someone suggesting slurry created with tomonagura vs DMT plate (pick yer flavor) was like espresso vs lemonade. I didn't entirely understand this at first but now I get it.
    FWIW I'm a musician so I count rhythms when doing laps. One set of three, two sets of three, three sets of three, etc. I also think of pressure in terms of volume: pianissimo is lightest pressure, fortissimo is full arm weight pressure. While creating slurry this last honing session, I did 25 sets of 4 light circles (piano eighth notes) and found that to be a good amount to Pause and Observe how the slurry was coming along. The tomonagura slurry on my hone is very subtle in color, but it's there none the less. The DMT creates a noticeable paler slurry in far fewer strokes but the mud is thin. I don't think it cuts any better, just wears the stone faster. No need to go crazy doing millions of circles with lots of pressure to make the nagura magic. Water too, I'm using 1/4 of a spritz of water to keep the stone wet enough. Mud: it's what we're really after. I think.
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