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    I also don't think the killing of the Aus college student had anything to do with video games. I think it had to do with wannabe "gangsters" (When I think of gangsters I think of Capone and his ilk. Sharply dressed and taken care of). They have also links to Crips street gang and a hatred for white people. Funny though that 2 of the 3 have white moms and black dads. Mind you this will NEVER be listed as a hate crime though.......................
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    Having read through this thread in its entirety I just have to say a few things from a mental health worker’s point of view. For the last 8 years I have worked with children who have severe mental illness and a predisposition towards violence and sexual assault. In the beginning of my career we allowed the children to play violent video games as part of feeling normal and of course we had violent outbursts daily. So we switched to sport games and well, we had violent outbursts daily. Now I don’t have a doctorate in psychiatry or psychology so take it as it is someone who has been there and witnessed it first hand, but I saw when we relegated TV and video games to an occasional thing that the whole unit had to earn and substituted more physical activities and one on one time, we had far fewer outbursts. In my professional foster parent homes, which house children released from SMI units, I advocate that the children have limited access to video games and more “family time”. When my families truly integrate these children into their homes and make them feel a part of them, the children act in kind. They stop with most of the outbursts (some are direct result of the diagnosis of the child and cannot be stopped simply by behavior modification alone) and start to take ownership of the families. I have my own theories on why mental health issues are on the rise and you bet my top reason is lack of parenting, but I also have seen more and more correlation of the foods/chemicals we eat and the forced immunizations we give children at a young age. Oh and I do agree that the US only uses punitive punishments as opposed to true prevention, but I feel most of that has to do with the media and its ability to cause mass hysteria as opposed to calling for true solutions. As I said the above is all just my opinion so please take it as that  thank you all for your time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    You mean bankrupting a family because their
    I'm guessing that won't work because a) the family cannot stop this from happening and b) the kid won't care or even think of the conseuquences.

    Look, I know this is not going to be a popular opinion in the US, but you're not going to solve this with more or more severa punishment. Prevention is key. Unfortunately, US society is not in favor of anything that is not punitive in nature.
    "rebelling son went off the reservation?" This did not happen overnight, Bruno. The family could have stopped it, because they created it.

    This may not be understood by people outside of the U.S. , but many of us in America do not see punishment as deterrent to all serious crime; we see punishment for what it is, "Punishment",,,severe enough to keep these 3 animals off the street for the rest of their natural lives.

    Prevention is key & it starts with the parents.

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    The problem is most criminals who commit violent type crimes aren't the brightest of the lot and they don't think through what they are doing or what might happen to them. Some of course don't care but it's later when they are caught that the realize what lies before them. That's why prison and execution are no deterrent.

    It's like old Tyrannosaurus Rex with a tiny brain just creating havoc in the world not realizing or caring about what he does.
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    There are so many great insights in this thread. Still I wonder what created the difference between the three murderers and Nick Selby, the Georgia Tech sophomore who made such a memorable speech welcoming members of the freshman engineering class to that institution. Family? Friends? Church? Whatever that difference, we need more of it and each of us are accountable for implementing that change in our own lives. IMHO
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    The battle seems to be between the haves and the have nots IMO,consider some of the facts of what is going on in this once great nation.
    On the streets are over 150 thousand homeless veterans,they get no help at all.
    At risk of becoming homeless are 1.5 million veterans,they get no help from the country they served.
    70% of the prison population are Black americans,Why?? ( i have no clue),that means Millions of children have one or no parents, and most of them will end up in the prison system down the road.
    The situation in syria and egypt is heart wrenching for me,seeing pics of those dead children today brought tears to my eyes.
    BUT,our currant regime has I feel forsaken the american people and the country.They are so fixated on pouring 100s of billions of dollors into countrys that could care less about america,stop the bleeding America.Let fix our homeland,let the rest of the world fend for themselves.

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    Just an update on the Spokane killing early this morning, I thought I would share just to wreck your night too

    WWII vet, beaten by teens outside Eagles Lodge, dies | Spokane/E. WA - KXLY.com

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    These random mindless acts of violence are heartbreaking to me no matter where they take place. I am 67 years of age and I have no idea where humanity will have to travel to begin to find answers and solutions to so much anger and clueless rage that is making our world smaller and smaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lz6 View Post
    These random mindless acts of violence are heartbreaking to me no matter where they take place. I am 67 years of age and I have no idea where humanity will have to travel to begin to find answers and solutions to so much anger and clueless rage that is making our world smaller and smaller.
    Thank god (am 65) we will be long gone when things get really bad,will not get better during our time

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Just an update on the Spokane killing early this morning, I thought I would share just to wreck your night too

    WWII vet, beaten by teens outside Eagles Lodge, dies | Spokane/E. WA - KXLY.com
    I hadn't read about that. So much senseless violence. This, the Aussie and the two teens that shot a lady's infant in the face after a failed robbery attempt. Its a wonder how any of us retain any faith in humanity left.
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