Thread: Am I Evil?

Originally Posted by carlmaloschneider

I think we all are, really...

I don't think Catholics are allowed...

Originally Posted by carlmaloschneider

Australia is the best place in the world, seriously. I did a survey about that too.

Do I understand irony?
What were the survey results, what was your demographic?

Originally Posted by carlmaloschneider

Oh not torturing, simple killing. I make reference of course to fox hunting...
Most people don't understand the definition of irony...

You do know how fox hunting works? I was refering to that as well, amongst other British bloodsports

It's time I chimed in. To paraphrase an old saw, "Evil is as good allows".

Good Morning edhewitt I need breakfast and the morning allotment of printed disasters.
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I just meant defensive if I were in that situation. Let me try to connect the dots so to speak on my feeling on this and/or any hypothetical question of this nature. Sometimes you have to choose the lesser of 2 evils. I do not believe that in doing this you condemn your soul to fire and brimstone. That is what forgiveness is about. Internal conflict is your brain arguing with your spirit on what your body should do. In some situations you don't have time for this argument to be resolved. Take the scenario presented by that psychologist. If turning a switch is any easier than pushing the fat guy then you have nothing but conflict resolution problems. I would leave the numbskulls stuck on the track to die. If they are so stupid as to get in that situation in the first place I certainly don't want them hanging around to breed and make more stupids we will someday have to kill innocent people to protect.
As for the test ???
Just so you know, I shot the psychologist. That was my best answer for that whole thing. He thinks that a simple explanation of what happens in your brain while being presented with certain scenarios can determine what type of person you are. I bet he has helped convict the innocent in some criminal trials as an expert witness. Now that he is gone Carl is safe and Mick can relax :<0)

Originally Posted by carlmaloschneider

Oh, sorry if I've not been clear, it's highly likely I haven't. Don't get on the defensive, there was no harm meant. I heard a radio show where they were talking of stories of atrocities in Rwanda, and one was a so being forced to kill his father to save another family member; as in the rebels or whatever they are forcing the child. of course the child would then be conscripted. A similar thing I was told happened in Asia via the Pol Pot thingy. It's truly horrific but it brings in to question really difficult questions, and a lot of the possible answers are based on really fundamental beliefs, like "I should preserve my body and evolution has dictated that" or (as I heard on the radio today, in a documentary about an Indian Guru (I think) "You are not your body, you are not your mind".

If one allows the idea that you are a spirit with a body AND a spirit must do good to advance (or go to a good place) then I think the question becomes clearer but actually not well accommodated.

On reading my original post, I see I should have highlighted the 'boiling down' bit. THAT was the point where he said I was 'evil', that ME abiding by a demand from another to kill one child to save another child (or the child and me) would be wrong, as I was carrying out an act that was AS evil as the other. However, as I was prompted by you, I need to remember that I'm not WANTING to do an evil act, and maybe I could be forgiven for doing the evil act to save another. We are of course assuming SOME sort of judgement scenario.

Originally Posted by edhewitt

You do know how fox hunting works? I was refering to that as well, amongst other British bloodsports

It's a misconception to think that everyone in the UK who hunt foxes ride around in Range Rovers and wear red coats while drinking lots of port, I kept and worked Terriers for very many years killing hundreds of Foxes through the years, in certain parts of Wales the terrain doesn't allow for mounted packs on horesback to hunt, so Welsh hill farmers call in people like myself with Terriers to bolt the Fox from the earth I used Lurchers to chase catch and kill the fox once bolted with the Terriers, but on occasion my Terrier would have killed the fox in the ground, and using a electronic locator on the Terriers collar I would dig the dog out, they also have well organized fox shoots where they would place guns in strategic position and run the hounds through forested areas to flush them out then shoot them.

Originally Posted by celticcrusader

It's a misconception to think that everyone in the UK who hunt foxes ride around in Range Rovers and wear red coats while drinking lots of port, I kept and worked Terriers for very many years killing hundreds of Foxes through the years, in certain parts of Wales the terrain doesn't allow for mounted packs on horesback to hunt, so Welsh hill farmers call in people like myself with Terriers to bolt the Fox from the earth I used Lurchers to chase catch and kill the fox once bolted with the Terriers, but on occasion my Terrier would have killed the fox in the ground, and using a electronic locator on the Terriers collar I would dig the dog out, they also have well organized fox shoots where they would place guns in strategic position and run the hounds through forested areas to flush them out then shoot them.

I hope I didn't offend anyone with my frivolous comment. I have NO idea myself how fox hunting works myself. What's a Lurcher?

Originally Posted by 10Pups

I just meant defensive if I were in that situation. Let me try to connect the dots so to speak on my feeling on this and/or any hypothetical question of this nature. Sometimes you have to choose the lesser of 2 evils. I do not believe that in doing this you condemn your soul to fire and brimstone. That is what forgiveness is about. Internal conflict is your brain arguing with your spirit on what your body should do. In some situations you don't have time for this argument to be resolved. Take the scenario presented by that psychologist. If turning a switch is any easier than pushing the fat guy then you have nothing but conflict resolution problems. I would leave the numbskulls stuck on the track to die. If they are so stupid as to get in that situation in the first place I certainly don't want them hanging around to breed and make more stupids we will someday have to kill innocent people to protect.
As for the test ???
Just so you know, I shot the psychologist. That was my best answer for that whole thing. He thinks that a simple explanation of what happens in your brain while being presented with certain scenarios can determine what type of person you are. I bet he has helped convict the innocent in some criminal trials as an expert witness. Now that he is gone Carl is safe and Mick can relax :<0)

I do agree about the forgiveness scenario; truly and deeply. I'm actually a very spiritual person and believe in God and Jesus. I don't want to say 'religious' because I think 'manufactured' religion is flawed; I do though believe in the Bible, even if that makes me loopy. So there's the crux of the thing, really. I actually spend a lot of time anguishing over if I'm 'good' enough and 'sorry' enough. I hope that anguishing as I do demonstrates a yearning to be 'good', because I think the 'yearning' is the important thing. That probably makes no sense whatsoever, but I console myself with the thought that at least I'm trying.

I'm trying REAL hard to be the shepherd.

It's probably not de rigueur to quote Pulp Fiction in such a conversation, but that just demonstrates what a messed up person I am inside...

(warning, bad language)

Pulp Fiction - Ending Scene - YouTube