Thread: Piece of History: A Canadian talks about American's

Since the inception of this country every time a wave of immigrants has arrived the status quo has always resisted any way they could. Things haven't changed. Laws were passed to exclude certain groups from even coming here and you know at one time Native Americans were not citizens of the U.S.

I loved watching that clip. Im a poor, hard working, big hearted, somewhat intelligent (although my wouldn't agree), pistol packing, hunt my food (in season so I can pay the huge light bills), proud to be a piece of white trash (some might say), God fearing American. And the sad thing is laws tell us we can't whip our kids? Well I turned out a hell of a lot better than those dope heads living off of my taxes (or their parents) that didn't get whippings when we was kids. I for one will b damn if I will let a bunch of government officials tell me that I can't raise my kids like I was raised. Teach them not to hate anyone and to help others if you can in any way. Raise them with them complaining on some Sundays cause they half to go to church. And tell them (when they are acting up) you'll do what I tell u to and like it. No backtalk or whining. I think people need a lot more hard nose dads n moms to teach them how to respect another human being. And how to survive without stores and supermarkets. God forbid it ever comin to it but if that day came I know without a doubt most of the trouble, with my beloved USA, would end and only the people like my grandfather and me and my kids would be left standing with our heads held high and no chip on our shoulder. People need to be humbled so they don't get to big for their britches and learn how to care for one another to survive. A simpler time needs to be quote retro unquote and in style. These people that have gun control on there minds need to have to feed their families first by bow then see how glad they are (& how many times they say "thank God") when they have the opportunities to use one to live.

Who's gonna give me a +1 on that?

That's American working FT and living week to week having to kill and eat what you kill to live and being happy and thankful to do so. No supplements or diet crap. Just living plain n simple.

Originally Posted by Bruno

From where I am sitting, it looks like the natural born white Americans are as much part of the problems you're having as any other part of the melting pot.

Grandson of russian immigrants here, spending the weekend with a Tunisian, two Germans an Italian and a Portugee. But, as the Waloons, Flemish, Chechens and Albanians of Belgium know, the idea of Melting Pot is the thing of myth. We're not special that way but we get along. Take what you have, add 3,100 miles to the width and 2,900 to the height, toss in another 300,000,00 people of every nationality, religious persuasion and ethnicity, then give them all the freedom (more or less) to worship and work (or not), speak freely, come, go, do good, do evil or, pretty much whatever they please and you have America. We're more complicated than television shows and no more unreasonable than good people who'd allow a government to collapse over french vs. flemish heritage.

As Hirlau offered, you are very welcome to stay in my home if you should be in the states. The view from the ground in Raleigh has nothing to do with al Jazzeera, FoxNews or Starsky and Hutch. I always have a spare razor and an open heart to make a new friend. Come by.

I'm from Detroit and Canadians are alright. If it wasn't for poutine you'd be darn near perfect. Thanks for OP, Phrank.

Originally Posted by MisterMoo

Grandson of russian immigrants here, spending the weekend with a Tunisian, two Germans an Italian and a Portugee. But, as the Waloons, Flemish, Chechens and Albanians of Belgium know, the idea of Melting Pot is the thing of myth. We're not special that way but we get along. Take what you have, add 3,100 miles to the width and 2,900 to the height, toss in another 300,000,00 people of every nationality, religious persuasion and ethnicity, then give them all the freedom (more or less) to worship and work (or not), speak freely, come, go, do good, do evil or, pretty much whatever they please and you have America. We're more complicated than television shows and no more unreasonable than good people who'd allow a government to collapse over french vs. flemish heritage.

As Hirlau offered, you are very welcome to stay in my home if you should be in the states. The view from the ground in Raleigh has nothing to do with al Jazzeera, FoxNews or Starsky and Hutch. I always have a spare razor and an open heart to make a new friend. Come by.

I'm from Detroit and Canadians are alright. If it wasn't for poutine you'd be darn near perfect. Thanks for OP, Phrank.

Thanks! And blame the French for the poutine, we blame them for everything else anyway!!

Speaking of which, headed to Montreal this weekend to see the daughter in University, Montreal is a truly beautiful and breathtaking city...maybe I'll find some nice French razors there...as the wife rolled her eyes and sighed when I mentioned that!?!

Originally Posted by edhewitt

Forgive me if I am wrong but I am assuming that at some point, a number of generations ago your ancestors would not have been born and bred americans? Presumably the melting pot was not overly diluted at that point?
I am not trying to pick an argument with you pixelfixed, just wondering.
Regards ed.

true I am not an american Indian (even they came from asia)But when I was born (1948) America was a far better place IMO.

Originally Posted by OCDshaver

To be sure, there are many problems that we could discuss. However, in MY neck of the woods (the murder capital of the country) violent crime is the number one problem at the moment. And before we get started on a "there is no gun control discussion any longer" rant, this is not about guns or gun control but simply statistics on murder in my area....guns, knives, asphyxiation, and "other". In MY area, violent crime/murder is not evenly distributed among race or gender. This is OUR biggest problem in this area. Yours may be financial, environmental, or even a lack of parking spaces.

Chicago Murder, Homicide & Crime 2013 Stats | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!


And if the numbers don't seem convincing enough, this may.


Refugee Family Flees Rampant Chicago Gun Violence, Settles Under Pile Of Blankets On Wisconsin Street


During a patrol Sunday morning, a Madison, Wisconsin police officer discovered an extended family of 10 huddled under a pile of blankets on a downtown street.

The group, the cop reported, included four adults, a five-month-old baby, several toddlers, and two older children. As detailed in a Madison Police Department incident report, the adults “were shocked” by the veteran officer’s concern for their welfare.

And that is when the homeless adults--who apparently had been on the streets for two weeks--explained why they were camped on a sidewalk near the State Capitol.

“They explained they had escaped the Englewood neighborhood of Chicago’s South Side,” police noted. The group, which was not seeking handouts, told the officer that they “fled Chicago from where a lot of shootings and deaths were occurring.” The officer added, “It was just too dangerous to stay; some people they knew were killed.”

Ongoing gang warfare has resulted in a spike in gun violence in Chicago, where the homicide rate is disproportionately high compared to other large U.S. cities. Englewood has been described as one of the Second City’s most dangerous neighborhoods.

Aided by cops, the family quickly received aid--food, money, and short-term lodging--from three local churches. The report notes that while the family’s “future still holds many questions,” they are now “away from the bullets.”

The incident report does not describe the refugee family’s housing situation in Chicago, or how they made the approximately 150-mile trip to Madison.

Refugee Family Flees Rampant Chicago Gun Violence, Settles Under Pile Of Blankets On Wisconsin Street | The Smoking Gun

Also don't want to verge into a gun control debate, but isn't Illinois if I understand correctly, the state out of fifty in our country that has the strictest gun control laws???

ChrisL

I find it interesting how other see us Americans, though I am not surprised, their view is tainted by the American Press and Media.

As Hiliru and Pix said it is a different America and changing daily… We have become an immigrant country of people not interested in melting, but remaining segregated. That is what Pix was talking about.

We have a leadership that encourages division, so they can remain in power and pander to groups to garner even more power in the form of uneducated votes.

There are sections of Sothern California where business signs are no longer written in English and English is no longer spoken or encouraged and it’s not Spanish either. There is no assimilation as a result.

In too many part of the US there is no melting pot, but separate small pots where the flame is put on high and allowed and encouraged to boil over. It is not surprising the Tsarnaev, family not only went undetected, but were coddled by our hand out society. Yet when any one looks at these pots, cries of “profiling and racism” go out, led by “charlatan politicians”.

America is a different place, one not understood by a myopic lens of media and liberal press. Perhaps you will only see that, as Hirlau & Moo suggest, up close. It is more indicative of the kind of people we really are, by those posting here now and offering to people they don’t even know, “your family is always welcome to stay with my family, whenever you decide to visit America”. “I always have a spare razor and an open heart to make a new friend. Come by”.

Recently I worked with an ex-soldier who in the weeks before the invasion, was dropped deep in the mountains of Iraq where he and his team remain unsupported for many, many weeks. No one wrote a book or made a movie about him and his guys, not all of which made it back. Actually he can’t talk about much of what he did, to most people. Today no-longer in the military, he is still dodging bullets at the tip of the spear, keeping Americans and non-Americans safe in anonymity. He is not alone.

My son who is a Deputy Sheriff was recently awarded a Medal of Valor, his second. He and his partner arrived on scene where a man was barricaded in a house and threatening to kill his entire, immigrant family with a handgun. After a distraction, my son and partner ran to the porch, each grabbed a small child under each arm and raced to cover, as the father shot at him, his partner and 4 of his own children.

When my son collapsed behind cover after their sprint, one of the children, an 8 year old girl said to him, “What the Fuc* took you so long?” The next morning, he put his uniform on again, just like every other cop who does not get a medal.

That, the Pix’s, Moo’s and Hirlau’s, the kids that wear the camo and those you never see, and hopefully never will, cause if you do, it is not a good place to be… those are the Americans Mr. Sinclair was talking about. Even with all our problems, it is still our sons and daughters who are sent to bail the rest of the world and do so with their limbs and lives and expect nothing in return, except to return to the Shining City on the Hill.

It is no small wonder that the American people spoke loud and clear to a tone deft leader, that no, we did not want to sacrifice our children yet again, to fight a war we did not intend to win, so that he could save face with a world who sees him for what he is, a tagger in the night,” I didn’t paint that red line” and long ago forgot Mr. Sinclair’s words.

I’ll tell you what took so long… we were just a little busy, doing somebody else’s laundry.

I think that is what Mr. Sinclair was speaking about…and I thank him for doing so and Phrank for reminding us. It is sad that we have to go back 40 years to hear it.

Originally Posted by Bruno

From where I am sitting, it looks like the natural born white Americans are as much part of the problems you're having as any other part of the melting pot.

I see you brought race in to this discussion. Major accomplishment.

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

when I was born (1948) America was a far better place IMO.

So, you showed up and things really went downhill fast.

Originally Posted by HNSB

So, you showed up and things really went downhill fast.

Thanks for that