Thread: Piece of History: A Canadian talks about American's

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Yet the simple thought of it makes me throw up a little in the back of my throat...

Many Americans find this to be against the very fabric of what it means to be American, myself included...

"Perhaps most importantly, Washington's presidential restraint, solemnity, judiciousness, and nonpartisan stance created an image of presidential greatness, or dignity, that dominates the office even today. He was the man who could have been a king but refused a crown and saved a republic."

This of course was written before Oba'Me took the office, Oba' Me is the name that his own people have given him, as it is all about him, the Me, me, me, President


Please do the searches and show me songs sung about other sitting Presidents while they were in office...

No problem there, each are entitled to differing views as we each live in free countries. You see it as a huge problem and I, looking in, not so much.

Bob

Originally Posted by earcutter

When you have love for country, your desires to participate in the community that is your nation, is bolstered. This makes you a better citizen. But when you start to wave your flag and say this is how someone should think in a democracy if you are a (insert nationality)... yup, again your pushing fascism ideals.

I guess every people of every county of the world should have the right to say that they are living in the best country there is. But at the moment you start to think that you are somewhat better than some other country you are going deeply wrong. Believe me, i've worked in countries that were ranked to be worse. Still majority of people were happy for their lives.

When seeing texts like USA/Finland/whatever is the best country/home of the free there is (lol) i always get concerned. Imho there's always something to learn from different nations. There is no freedom but society will always make the rules for you. What is absolute freedom? Free from human relationships? Free from personal responsibility?

No country in the world cannot get along without having a conversation with others. That is how cultures change, little by littla. As we take members from new unseen cultures it's just not expecting them to change but little by little they change our culture too. That is how it's always been.

Originally Posted by Sailor

I guess every people of every county of the world should have the right to say that they are living in the best country there is. But at the moment you start to think that you are somewhat better than some other country you are going deeply wrong. Believe me, i've worked in countries that were ranked to be worse. Still majority of people were happy for their lives.

When seeing texts like USA/Finland/whatever is the best country/home of the free there is (lol) i always get concerned. Imho there's always something to learn from different nations. There is no freedom but society will always make the rules for you. What is absolute freedom? Free from human relationships? Free from personal responsibility?

No country in the world cannot get along without having a conversation with others. That is how cultures change, little by littla. As we take members from new unseen cultures it's just not expecting them to change but little by little they change our culture too. That is how it's always been.

Well, all I know, is that if women ran the world, every 28 days there'd be a whole bunch of countries not talking to each other....

Originally Posted by Phrank

Well, all I know, is that if women ran the world, every 28 days there'd be a whole bunch of countries not talking to each other....

Well men have not done a terribly good job have they.

Originally Posted by edhewitt

Well men have not done a terribly good job have they.

Quite right on that, we still seem to like banging on our pots and pans and fighting over the Universal Remote Control of Everything...

I read through the first few pages of this post and i have nearly 100 replies in my head, hehe.
As an American, I for one, have become "terribly" discouraged by the path our country has taken in the past few years. I detest talking politics but i feel that it has become our greatest evil. My ideas do not come from one party or the other but I feel that we are being manipulated in an adverse way by powerful figures not only in this country but throughout the world. We vote who we want to make decisions in government but far too many of our votes are bought in one way or another before they are ever cast in an election. The trust is gone.
I often try to put myself in the eyes of those who look at us (Americans) from afar. More and more i do not like what i see. If you are able to get down to the grass roots and look at individuals and individual areas many if not most of our citizens, groups, classes are great people living good and upstanding lives.
Mainstream media far too often does a terrible disservice to all of us.
I'm going to stop here before this becomes a rant that i'll be sorry for later.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Yet the simple thought of it makes me throw up a little in the back of my throat...

Many Americans find this to be against the very fabric of what it means to be American, myself included...

"Perhaps most importantly, Washington's presidential restraint, solemnity, judiciousness, and nonpartisan stance created an image of presidential greatness, or dignity, that dominates the office even today. He was the man who could have been a king but refused a crown and saved a republic."

This of course was written before Oba'Me took the office, Oba' Me is the name that his own people have given him, as it is all about him, the Me, me, me, President


Please do the searches and show me songs sung about other sitting Presidents while they were in office...

I'll guess a weak constitution if this makes you a little sick. As for being against the very fabric of what it means to be American...... All I see are groups of students and parents exercising their god given rights as Americans to express their feelings in a way they see fit. I don't see anyone being forced to participate. Looks exactly like freedom of expression which I assume you would support. Do you mind advising who exactly gave your President the name Oba'Me? Not sure who you're referring too.

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Originally Posted by Brenngun

I'll guess a weak constitution if this makes you a little sick. As for being against the very fabric of what it means to be American...... All I see are groups of students and parents exercising their god given rights as Americans to express their feelings in a way they see fit. I don't see anyone being forced to participate. Looks exactly like freedom of expression which I assume you would support. Do you mind advising who exactly gave your President the name Oba'Me? Not sure who you're referring too.

1. I think perhaps you misread the posts about the songs...
2. GIYF
3. I find your post personally offensive, so go find the info yourself

You know its funny that an isolated indecent that occurred in 2009 such as this; one that wasn't even a part of any "grand scheme" by any one group such as the board of education, or even under direction from the presidents office gives rise to so much disdain for a man and a party that had nothing to do with it. LOL!!

This indecent had nothing to do with Obama or his office... or even the board of education. It was a rouge school!! That's it!

How does this turn into a grand scheme of some kind?

There are a million reasons to have disdain for the current president and his party but this... well this is not one of them. Move onto something more tangible!

I mean for sure it was awful and like Glen says... it makes me puke a little. But seriously, it was an isolated indecent that occurred in 2009! Hate the school's principal - sure. Lingering on the topic and continuing to blame the left 4 years later, is kind of spooky.

Review Ordered of Video Showing Students Singing Praises of President Obama | Fox News
Eugene Volokh: "School Children Singing the Praises of President Obama" (Apparently as a Public School Class Project):

But then I guess I am one to talk - I still blame Bush for bringing the American economy to its knees and putting American's in harms way for weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist. But then at least I can trace it back to both him and his office lol - .