President of the US of A

**Ernie1980** · 01-27-2016, 09:07 PM

I am not sure where your information is coming from...we don't even know who we are voting for yet for president! I agree with Bruce that our whole political system is run by clowns who have no idea what the average citizen goes through on a day to day basis.
You injected a lot of your own bias into your original post, so it is clear where you stand on our election!

**BobH** · 01-27-2016, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Phrank

Yes - Paul Martin, the guy who complained about tax avoidance as he re-flagged all his ships to avoid tax...

Yea, a very common practice in the shipping world. Avoiding taxes plays a very big part in big business as does/did the use of family trusts here.

Bob

**ChrisL** · 01-27-2016, 09:34 PM

I think Clinton will win. My reasoning:

The country seems to be more or less 50/50 split between democrat and republican with possibly a hair over on the democratic side for the following reason: I'm not on a soapbox for voter registration (although to me it's only logical), but I believe if the U.S. did have voter registration, I think the scales on voting would be tipped something more like 60 % republican 40% democrat in an instant. Just a gut feeling.

I believe it's now regarded as fact that Clinton violated laws with housing many top secret documents/emails on a private server. Such felonious behavior would undoubtedly result in conviction and sentencing of most in that same scenario. I believe she will emerge from this unscathed. Like it or not, I think in this day and age those in her position (high level government) are above the law. I think there is a disconnect among many voters that such crimes do not apparently impact their intent on voting for a person in her position.

I won't forget this clip about her husband when he was president and skirted his scandal avoiding impeachment.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mabJPTS8lvw

**ScottGoodman** · 01-27-2016, 09:45 PM

unfortunately big money and politics does raise you above the law as it happens all over...

**BobH** · 01-27-2016, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by shooter74743

unfortunately big money and politics does raise you above the law as it happens all over...

Yup, and you can't do politics without backing because it costs so much to get elected. You are always beholding to someone for the monetary support you got from them to get you in. I don't think any politician no matter their personal wealth can pay for a campaign entirely out of their own pocket.

Bob

**10Pups** · 01-27-2016, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Jimbo

That's good, but I guess what I meant was is it a general rule of any President in that situation that they must give up their business interests?

James.

A president cannot run a business on the side and all investments must be put in the care of an investment house. Obama put his with Berkshire Hathaway. This does not mean he doesn't know what's going on nor does it stop him from swaying things in his favor.
BP oil spill. They wanted to use Corexit in the ocean to absorb the oil. EPA was not prepared to responsibly authorize BP's use of Corexit, but did so anyway. Wonder why ? Not sure myself but it just so happens Berkshire bought a LOT of stock in that company just before the decision and the stock went through the roof after. Hmmmm
It's much like insider trading. Against the law but a staple food of the rich. You have to get caught and even then only the little guys become patsies.

**puketui41** · 01-28-2016, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Ernie1980

I am not sure where your information is coming from...we don't even know who we are voting for yet for president! I agree with Bruce that our whole political system is run by clowns who have no idea what the average citizen goes through on a day to day basis.
You injected a lot of your own bias into your original post, so it is clear where you stand on our election!

Original post? Are you talking to me, the OP?

**NewellVW** · 01-28-2016, 05:20 PM

Hillary will win for the same reason Obama won. People, especially the 18 to 20 something crowd, women and the misinformed will vote for her so they can help make history!
" Yeah, we helped elect the first _______! " insert your choice here!
They do not even care about issues or political stance. The wife and I have been shocked at 2 of our female friends ( no spring chickens BTW ) that have stated straight out they are voting for " The Woman "!!?! When confronted about some of Hillary's stances, they outright said they don't care because NO politicians do what they say so we might as well put in a woman cuzz she might make a difference and change things!!

Watch her speeches/rallies, especially when she is done and mingling with the crowd. A lot of younger women looking for her autograph.

Help support term limits for all politicians! It was never meant to be a career. Two terms should be the limit. That way just about the time they figure out how to manipulate and rip-off the system, they are gone!

The above is my opinion only! YMMV! Thank you!

**UKRob** · 01-28-2016, 05:32 PM

I've thought for a long time now that the first US female president would be a Clinton - my bet is on Chelsea. I don't see the US public being fooled by Hillary.

**honedright** · 01-28-2016, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by UKRob

I don't see the US public being fooled by...

I wish I had your optimism.

Thread: President of the US of A

LinkBack

Thread Tools

Display

Posting Permissions