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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    No, just no. We should not all have to pay for elective cosmetic surgery in an attempt to correct what is, in most instances, a mental health issue.
    Should we then be treating the mental health issue? That's a slippery slope we don't want go down. "Really,sir. You're unhappy with the present Government? Well, we have pills to cure that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by honedright View Post
    Back, for a moment, to the restroom issue, et. al. Isn't the objection that has been expressed, to these cultural changes, related to long standing mores and traditions stemming, in large part, from religious teachings as well as cultural conventions?

    If so, consider this well known excerpt from The Communist Manifesto, chapter II: "But Communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience.”

    Brings to mind the analogy of "boiling the frog," done incrementally and slowly so he won't know he's cooked, until it's too late.
    We are all the frog.

    We are giving transgenders a right to choose. But what happens to the rights of the people who don't want men in a ladies bathroom. They no longer have the right of choice and they are the vast majority. Stripping away the right of choice for less than 1% of the population is criminal.
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    Can we please get back on topic? Those who want to talk about toilets could start their own thread. Cheers, OP
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    Quote Originally Posted by puketui41 View Post
    Should we then be treating the mental health issue? That's a slippery slope we don't want go down. "Really,sir. You're unhappy with the present Government? Well, we have pills to cure that."
    Yes. I do think mental health issues should be treated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puketui41 View Post
    Ok, it looks like Donald Trump is going to be your next president. I want to know what you guys think about that. To me, writing from the other side of the world, I have a mixed interest. It may not be my country, but the decision you guys make effects the rest of the world. While he is undoubtably a great businessman, I worry that once he gets into international politics he will show the same 'bull-at the-gate' approach that turned people off Reagan and Bush. I reckon his IQ is probably double that of the three previous Republican Presidents combined and I feel that all those Presidents lacked the true statesmanship shown by Clinton and Obama. That said, I am neither Democratic, nor Republican. My personal feeling on politics is that we, the citizens, are the prey caught between two predators and we play a balancing game designed to keep either side from devouring us. In the words of someone who's name escapes me, 'The citizens of a State are like the residents of a prison, except that every three to five years they are given the opportunity to vote on who their captors will be for the next three to five years and the decisions they make justify their imprisonment in the first place.' So, current US politics, what do you think?
    'Prey' I like that. An awful lot of buttons are being push and this thread shows it so we drift. On a personal level I like seeing more folks get upset. I think it gets folks more involved, more awareness in all directions. The over load is getting to be a distraction I feel.

    The difference in US is it's citizens are armed an can protect ones self up to a point. Squeeze us too hard and we can fight back. I don't think we are armed prisoners but I can see how some can view us that way.

    I went to the big box store and bought a case of popcorn for this rich person's Jerry Springer show. Har!!
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    I'll make it simple for you folks, The last four Presidents are Guilty of TREASON, it IS a Hanging offense, they are still walking around FREE, I say Hang them ALL after an easy speedy trial (multiple TREASON offenses each) better hurry up to get Bush senior in the lineup, wouldn't want him to croak before being Hanged.

    After all the Hanging, any person to become President would and should follow the LAWS,,, IF, the Rule of law is actually brought BACK into Honesty, as of Now there is no rule of law.

    Before I forget, the Congress and Senators are guilty of treason too, Hang those Bastards too. When our elected officials see that Breaking the Laws by NOT following the US. Constitution are brought up to hang them, then we will have HONEST people doing the Honest Job instead of Criminals getting fat in D.C.

    Any body disagree with my post?? I am an Constitutionalist screww the Dems and the rethugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FAL View Post
    Any body disagree with my post?
    I do.

    I am glad I do not live in a country where you've set up the system of government.
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    Life is very different across the nation and citizens experiences will vary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suticat View Post
    We are all the frog.

    We are giving transgenders a right to choose. But what happens to the rights of the people who don't want men in a ladies bathroom.
    I think you're missing the point the proponents of this have. There is another redefinition by fiat against natural law going on here (first being the redefinition of marriage ). Proponents have declared that gender is now redefined from being biological to being the individual's perception of their "identity". To them then, it's not a man in the ladies room if he thinks he's a woman.

    We humans could declare anything and make it law even if the act of declaring doesn't change the natural state of something in the least.

    I've instilled the following into my kids by asking them these questions many times:

    If 100 people believe something that's wrong is right, does that make it right?

    If a million people believe something that's wrong is right, does that make it right?

    If the entire world were to believe something that's wrong is right, does that make it right? -By my count there were only eight people in the Ark...I think they made the right choice.

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    I'm not sure what natural laws apply here.

    I'm not aware of any natural laws that govern bathrooms.

    Since the Bible was brought up it has stuff to say about defecation - dig a hole with a stick and cover the poo afterwards. Seems to be pretty sex/gender neutral.


    May be the folks in Amsterdam have it right after all - doing it all in the open may be the best deterrence to predators because the good samaritan bystanders can interfere with any nefarious plans
    Last edited by gugi; 05-16-2016 at 02:00 AM. Reason: amsterdam's got it right?

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