Thread: President of the US of A

Originally Posted by UKRob

What about drawing conclusions and putting words into someone's posts that had not actually been said?

That's not what I have done. If I have, the person would've taken an issue with it and we can clear any misunderstanding.

Originally Posted by gugi

OK, so I watched those videos.

The first one is about Bill Clinton having sex with an intern and then lying about it. If that troubles you so much, shouldn't the same thing trouble you at least equally in Donald Trump?
I mean Bill Clinton lied about it because it was wrong thing to do, Donald Trump has bragged about his conquests because he thinks it shows how great he is that the conventional rules do not apply to him. The way I see it Trump is making something wrong several levels worse.

On the second one a congressman supposedly 'nails' Clinton for 'not telling the american people the truth about Benghazi'. The big truth being hidden is that there was a terrorist attack, but Clinton pretended it was just a peaceful demonstration - at least that's what I can tell from it.
It wasn't that long ago, and what I remember doesn't fit the congressman's narrative.

But he does explain what is going on - it was election time and the two sides were trying to score political points - the republicans to present Obama as a weak president who can't deal with the national security, the democrats the opposite.
But since Obama won that election, the only political advantage is now going after Hillary Clinton because she is most likely going to be the next presidential nominee.


So, yes, this is all politics, but the problem now for the republican party is that they nominated Donald Trump - it diminishes this whole line of attacks against Hillary Clinton on national security because Trump has shown he is far more clueless and irresponsible with his words. He even has to convince his own party, after getting the nomination, that he can be trusted to not act recklessly in this area.

If you really think that Trump is more dangerous and more of a liar than the Clintons then there is no point going further. I really can't present you with anything more other than what you have seen and still disbelieve. You yourself said it. People have made up their minds. I guess it comes down to what you believe or don't. Enjoy the election.

Originally Posted by gugi

I am not defending anybody, I just marvel how people are able to find every fault with the opposing side, while turning a blind eye to the exact same faults sometimes in a worse manifestation on their side.

I'm not impressed by cherry-picking Bill Clinton among all politicians and businessmen who have rubbed shoulders with that guy. I'd be impressed when you apply the same standard to people you are going to vote for as for people you are going to vote against.

Funny,I believe I said roughly the same thing about Leftist a few posts back.

Originally Posted by Uzi

What makes you think I'm going to vote for any of these losers? I'm essentially an Anarcho-capitalist. If you want me to list all of the reasons that Trump is a terrible candidate, I would be happy to do that. I think it can best be summed up by saying that, with but rare exception, the Republican voters will ALWAYS, choose the worst possible candidate. The truth is, however, that NOBODY knows if Trump would turn out to be a good President or a bad President. There's simply no evidence and none can be gleaned from the things he says because his statements contradict one another, sometime even in the same paragraph. What I do know, is that Hillary would be a terrible, terrible President. I give Bernie Sanders marks for coming out of the closet and proclaiming that he is a socialist. That's brave. We know that if he had his way we'd be just like Venezuela or Cuba. So good for him, for admitting that he wants American turned into a third world country.

Imagine there are three cups. You must drink from one cup. Two of the cups you know for certain are poison. The third might be poison or it might not. Assuming you are not suicidal, which cup would you prefer drink from? Welcome to the 2016 Presidential Race.

OMG Bingo !! And the thing is is that if Trump does win he will be surrounded with Military,political,etc. experts and it won't be like he will be able to just press the red button of doom without approval of Congress.Also, he's a business man and most successful businessmen will tell you that one of the keys to success is to surround yourself with smart people to help you make decisions ,you don't just wing it and go it alone.......unless your the current Monarch in charge that is.(yeah ,I'll catch hell for that one.....oh well,my cheap shot for the day)

Originally Posted by jmercer

The joys of poking the hornet’s nest we call human nature… Har!

Poke,poke,pokin the bear pokin the hornets tee hee !!

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

No, not at all.

If you think that is the case.

On a different note just keep in mind Trump was nothing but a playboy. He had so many girlfriends going on at the same time I wondered how he kept track of them. He ain't no moral icon.

There is a difference between a playboy who plays with women and a creep who abuses them.

Originally Posted by Nightblade

If you really think that Trump is more dangerous and more of a liar than the Clintons then there is no point going further.

See, I presented a comparison while you are saying that you see no point of talking anymore with people who you think disagree with your conclusion.
I found your arguments extremely weak and unconvincing, and you have already decided I am in the tank for 'the Clintons'.

If it'll make you sleep better I have very intentionally not voted in the last 20 years even if I find politics and how easy it is to manipulate people interesting enough to pay attention.

Originally Posted by Nightblade

There is a difference between a playboy who plays with women and a creep who abuses them.

Yep, Megyn Kelly totally loved it all. The one thing she failed to appreciate at the time, afterwards when he said 'oh, ok, excuse me' she laughed off immediately understanding it was just a tiny innocent joke.
Great journalism in that last interview - such tough questioning and follow up - she may have even surpassed the high journalistic standards she keeps talking about.

I'm sure with time Calry Fiorina and Heidi Cruz will come to appreciate Trumps loving playfulness just as well.

Originally Posted by honedright

Therefore, does it make more sense to indict a living person under suspicion of multiple offenses, or to charge the corpse of a dead pig who has offended no one, and in fact surrendered it's life for the benefit of mankind. Go figure.

This is the most desperate reach yet. I assumed the ham sandwich was an attempt at a joke, not the basis for support for your point. I am convinced. I'm going to vote for the ham sandwich.

Originally Posted by Nightblade

OMG Bingo !! And the thing is is that if Trump does win he will be surrounded with Military,political,etc. experts and it won't be like he will be able to just press the red button of doom without approval of Congress.Also, he's a business man and most successful businessmen will tell you that one of the keys to success is to surround yourself with smart people to help you make decisions ,you don't just wing it and go it alone.......unless your the current Monarch in charge that is.(yeah ,I'll catch hell for that one.....oh well,my cheap shot for the day)

The red button of doom? You mean the football. If it comes to it the President doesn't need the approval of anyone he makes the decision to input the codes all by his lonesome and the nukes are away. Congress doesn't do squat.

That's one reason other republicans are nervous about trump.