Thread: Guns GunsGuns!!

Anything .223 or larger should fit the bill nicely. We typically used 30-06, but that's what was handy. My philosophy is a .22LR pistol & rifle for cheap practice, a deer caliber rifle, a 12 guage for dove/quail/duck/pheasant and a personal defense handgun. 30-06 was just the family's preferred deer hunting round. Nowadays .223 is legal in many states.

Originally Posted by sensei_kyle

Anything .223 or larger should fit the bill nicely. We typically used 30-06, but that's what was handy. My philosophy is a .22LR pistol & rifle for cheap practice, a deer caliber rifle, a 12 guage for dove/quail/duck/pheasant and a personal defense handgun. 30-06 was just the family's preferred deer hunting round. Nowadays .223 is legal in many states.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wont a well placed 22 slug take down just about anything man sized and smaller? I know they're small, but if your a good shot wouldn't it work?

That's a big if. But, it's not too hard to be good enough to at least deter them.

I like those stats. I'm also a big fan of the Arizona stats. Went something like this: the phoenix area had a problem with robberies, so the legislature approved C&C licensing, and the amount of robberies dropped like a rock on Saturn. There have been several cases that I've heard directly from ex-thieves that say if they know a gun is in the house, they won't even bother.

Originally Posted by JMS

Alright, interesting statistics on guns:

1) since the outlawing of privately owned guns in England in 1997 the amount of gun related crime has doubled in England!

Funny how people think that banning guns, crime will go down. Like people use legal guns to commit crimes.

for the cayotes PSG1...

Well --- I guess it depends Mark if you want to be humane about it or not ----they have a whole class of .22 caliber cartridges that are classified as varmint rounds -- .223 Remington is hard to beat --- do a little research on varmint and coyote hunting --- Im always impressed by the little old .22 long rifle -- but they have the .22 hornet. , .22 magnum, etc . A rifle in .223 or 7.62x39 is a good farm gun

Do you have neighbors? Do you need to be quiet as possible?

Justin

The stats are interesting Mark, but I don't know what to make of them. 90 guns per 100 US citizens seems high, but if it's an average rate I guess it's being dragged up because of multiple firearm ownership.

I grew up with rifles on a farm - I had a .22 Anschutz with a 5 round magazine I used to use to shoot wild pigs with.

My father's got a lot of rifles etc. After our gun laws came in and the govt. started a buy-back scheme, I think he may have handed a few of the "less legal" ones in. Don't know what became of the others.

James.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

The stats are interesting Mark, but I don't know what to make of them. 90 guns per 100 US citizens seems high, but if it's an average rate I guess it's being dragged up because of multiple firearm ownership.

I grew up with rifles on a farm - I had a .22 Anschutz with a 5 round magazine I used to use to shoot wild pigs with.

My father's got a lot of rifles etc. After our gun laws came in and the govt. started a buy-back scheme, I think he may have handed a few of the "less legal" ones in. Don't know what became of the others.

James.

Those guys make some nice guns

I really enjoy shooting .22 long rifle ---- a lot of fun.

Justin

Originally Posted by custommartini

for the cayotes PSG1...

Still wish I hadn't sold mine... of course I've gone to single shots now and don't need the extra rounds anymore

Yes a well placed .22lr will drop just about anything on the planet... problem is, there are very few people out there good enough to do it. Ethically the odds are just not in your favor, far to many if's... Hence, as you said, knowing what you can do. I have taken on the attitude of "If you can't drop it with 1 well placed round, don't take the shot." With my old 22lr system I would be ok taking a head shot at a coyote out to 125yds tops. Now that I have a new scope I have some practicing to do I don't have a .223 Bbl any longer but have a 6.5tcu that I still need to work up loads for. The .375 JDJ has been with me sence '89 while I lived in Alaska... That puppy will eat anything that walks. On the north American continent I'm ok with 250 yard one shot kills. I've shot it so much at so many ranges that I'm pretty tickled with it.

All that this means is, if you are going to get one firearm, research what you want it to do. Pick from the many styles that will fit you, and go out and use it, alot... and often... there are many ranges out there that will help you with anything you may incounter.

Like the saying says, "Beware the man with one gun!" he may have other faults... No, no, no not that last part haha!!

Originally Posted by jaegerhund

Those guys make some nice guns

I really enjoy shooting .22 long rifle ---- a lot of fun.

Justin

Yeah - it was a beaut little rifle for a lad. Dad put a long-leg scope on it for me (so I could still use the manual sights) and everything. I had a .22 magnum (pump action) too - that was a fun rifle!

James.

Originally Posted by DwarvenChef

Still wish I hadn't sold mine... of course I've gone to single shots now and don't need the extra rounds anymore

Yes a well placed .22lr will drop just about anything on the planet... problem is, there are very few people out there good enough to do it. Ethically the odds are just not in your favor, far to many if's... Hence, as you said, knowing what you can do. I have taken on the attitude of "If you can't drop it with 1 well placed round, don't take the shot." With my old 22lr system I would be ok taking a head shot at a coyote out to 125yds tops. Now that I have a new scope I have some practicing to do I don't have a .223 Bbl any longer but have a 6.5tcu that I still need to work up loads for. The .375 JDJ has been with me sence '89 while I lived in Alaska... That puppy will eat anything that walks. On the north American continent I'm ok with 250 yard one shot kills. I've shot it so much at so many ranges that I'm pretty tickled with it.

All that this means is, if you are going to get one firearm, research what you want it to do. Pick from the many styles that will fit you, and go out and use it, alot... and often... there are many ranges out there that will help you with anything you may incounter.

Like the saying says, "Beware the man with one gun!" he may have other faults... No, no, no not that last part haha!!

Are you sure your from San Francisco?