Thread: Wireless Cameras

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Around these parts we just take em to the Desert. The coyotes make quick work of them.

Coyotes leave bones and dental records, if you toss a body in with a bunch of hungry hogs they'll eat it all, guts, bones and teeth. All you'd need to worry about is any blood that might be found.

A friend of my dad's (Herb) worked for a big farmer who also raised pigs but they were on concrete 100% of the time. Herb said that every once in awhile the group would single one out, kill it and eat every bit of it.

Herb said that they figured that they were just missing some nutrients that they weren't getting from being able to root in the ground.

I doubt that Herb's thoughts were of any condolence to the pig that got ate.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Around these parts we just take em to the Desert. The coyotes make quick work of them.

In Florida people get fed to the gators. Trust me no one will find anything after that. I have been ignoring this post because in my business you hear all the nonsense. For those who don't know I'm a locksmith. I just today had this conversation: people ask me,"should I get a deadbolt with a key on both sides or only one side?" I will NOT give advise because if someone breaks a window and reaches through and I said get a turn knob on the inside it is, " well, the locksmith told me to get a single cylinder." If I say to get a double cylinder and there is a fire and someone burns to death or there is an intruder and someone can't get out and gets murdered it's, "well the locksmith told me to get the double cylinders." There is no winning in my position. As Mike said, or at least to paraphrase, locks make it to where the bad guys give up and go somewhere else. I have a 120lb dog that will scare the shit out of anyone and that makes the Fed Ex man run to his truck. I pity the fool that tries.to break in and I doubt that many will want to snatch and grab from my porch the way he goes at the door. Let's just say, I wouldn't jump over my back fence. Plus I am HEAVILY armed.
I am entertained listening to this and good luck to you guys. I will just say these 2 things. 1)That camera/cameras are not going to stop someone who is going to/bound and determined to do wrong. A theif is going to steal and if you become complacent feeling safe and depending on that camera to stop them.then you are making it easier (Johntoad got it right here) 2) In the age of the pandemic you l are wasting your time with cameras when no one thinks it strange to wear a mask.

Take that for what it's worth. Say I'm wrong, call me stupid if you This want. That is absolutely ALL I have to say on the topic.

I think we all realise that it takes a lot to stop a determined thief. However, most thieves choose this occupation to avoid hard work. Dogs are great, but if you go on vacation, do you leave the dog behind to fend for itself? Hardening the target with good lighting, alarms, CCTV, pyracantha hedging and high quality locks often displaces crime. The bad guy will usually look for somewhere easier.

F*#king locks aren’t good for much so you sell false security, and let’s face it dogs don’t scare most men either.
It scares the clowns. I haven’t met the dog yet that is a deterrent. If they want your shit, they can get past alarms, locks, dogs and guns. Put too much faith in your dog and they will just kill it.

So it’s really, are you going to be targeted or not, and are you going to live in fear? We were broke in at the last house around Christmas, alarm, locks the clown locksmith installed, cameras, the works. They just broke the window on the side of the house and walked in, kicked the dog in the head.

So make your choice of homes as you would in combat, pick your ground defensible, carry a gun, but they can still get you. Hell I’m a roughneck by trade, I can open any lock, or car or safe, so how secure are our measures? All you can do is try to live your life without the fear of it. And where Glen is, trust me, if he’s not home they will get what they want, if he’s home, well they ain’t leaving upright, no damn dog takes any advantage over a man with a gun who can and will use it.

I'm not saying not to have locks or alarms or even camera. What I'm saying is don't think that's it and now can forget it. People call me after a break in or even before and want me to make them "safe." There is no such thing. Safety is a concept not a reality. I always tell people that. If they still get broken into after I have done my best to give them what they were after and don't give them a false sense of safety then that makes them the "clown" not me...this is why I have ignored this conversation. People call me wanting me to give them something that money can't buy. Because some people are dishonest other people have invented things to keep them out. As a result someone has to service those things.
...and avoiding hard work is not why people steal. Stealing is.hard work. They do it for the thrill or out of misguided priorities or lack of moral compass. That is something I can't fix or even prevent.

Originally Posted by PaulFLUS

I'm not saying not to have locks or alarms or even camera. What I'm saying is don't think that's it and now can forget it. People call me after a break in or even before and want me to make them "safe." There is no such thing. Safety is a concept not a reality. I always tell people that. If they still get broken into after I have done my best to give them what they were after and don't give them a false sense of safety then that makes them the "clown" not me...this is why I have ignored this conversation. People call me wanting me to give them something that money can't buy. Because some people are dishonest other people have invented things to keep them out. As a result someone has to service those things.
...and avoiding hard work is not why people steal. Stealing is.hard work. They do it for the thrill or out of misguided priorities or lack of moral compass. That is something I can't fix or even prevent.

I think one of the weakest spots in home security may be taxi drivers.

They are the one total stranger that knows you are away, sees your suitcases and can be chatty enough to find out where your going, who's left at home and how long you're going for.

No offense to taxi drivers, I'm not suggesting they're dishonest in any way, just pointing out a possible security weak point.

Originally Posted by PaulFLUS

People call me after a break in or even before and want me to make them "safe." There is no such thing. Safety is a concept not a reality.

I agree with that. You can take steps to reduce risk, which most of the time will limit damage, but never rule out the possibility that shit will happen.

Security is just throwing stumbling blocks at the thief so they figure it's too much of a hassle to get into this house when I can get into the one next door more easily.

If you have an intruder who knows what you got and is motivated nothing will stop him. He will be prepared to deal with anything short of lethal booby traps. Even the houses with the best security money can buy and guard dogs get broken into.

We are going a bit off tangent from the original post but yes, if someone wants to get take something from your house no much is going to stop them.
Money can buy you damn good security though. I was working on a multi million pound house in Kensington London when I accidentally set of a panic button, within a few minutes there were about 9 armed Police officers surrounding the property. I had a bit of explaining to do!

Before this gets back on topic---My apologies for the crappy music at the start.