Thread: The Ukraine Situation

Originally Posted by JBHoren

We can talk talk talk about how the Russian military "sucks", but however much it does, it's (a) better trained than the Ukrainian forces; and (b) it greatly outnumbers the Ukrainian forces in manpower and materiel.

Today, it's too late for Zelensky, too late for Ukraine. Now all he gets to do is try to have some input into their terms of surrender.

It's a brave man that will predict the outcome of this war, but subsequent events have shown that the Russian forces have been weak in leadership, strategy and tactics.
The 331st Guards Parachute Regiment, supposedly one of Russia's most elite regiments, was sent packing minus their senior officers who were killed.
It's likely that Russia has already 'won' by killing Ukrainian civilians with missiles but so far their soldiers and airmen have been comprehensively outclassed militarily by the the Ukrainians. I'm not sure we will see Ukraine capitulate anytime soon.

It's surprising how many British fighters mostly ex-military are fighting in Ukraine, makes me proud to think we have guys of this calibre in the UK.

Originally Posted by celticcrusader

It's surprising how many British fighters mostly ex-military are fighting in Ukraine, makes me proud to think we have guys of this calibre in the UK.

I just caught a partial sound bite that Boris Johnson went to Kiev to meet with Zelensky, good for him

Chalk one up for the Ukrainians. They apparently sank the guided missile cruiser Muskova, flagship of the Russian Black Sea fleet, after hitting it with with a cruise missile or two. Replacing it with one of the two surviving Slava class guided missile cruisers appears unlikely as Turkey is probably will not let them enter into the Black Sea. Could become interesting if Russia decides to force the issue in a direct confrontation with a NATO member.

Bob

During my heady days of Computer War Gaming hehehe I can't count the times I sank that ship under her first name Slava in those battles

It is a big deal she was sunk

The renamed Slava is not to be confused with the original Muskova which was a helicopter carrier. That is the one I remember being the Muskova and initiall thought I had lost my mind when I first saw what was now called the Muskova.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskva...copter_carrier

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

Chalk one up for the Ukrainians.

The Russians say it wasn't the Ukraine, it was a special reef building operation.

Originally Posted by welshwizard

The Russians say it wasn't the Ukraine, it was a special reef building operation.

Ah that explains it then LoL

Originally Posted by welshwizard

The Russians say it wasn't the Ukraine, it was a special reef building operation.

Yea, the Russians say a lot of things that seem to be absolute sh_te don't they. Their press releases are right out of a skit on SNL.

Bob

The Russian silliness continues and I am sure other countries had more names added to the stop list.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...9067a5dad3b372

The way Putin is going there may come a time when Russia will have no say on who enters the country.

Bob