Thread: The Ukraine Situation

Originally Posted by welshwizard

President Trump is way out of his depth.


The politicians in Western Europe shoved their collective heads in the sand when Putin invaded Crimea. President Trump is correct in saying that most of the nations making up NATO have not been paying their way.



Instead of appeasing Putin, Trump needs to knock the European leaders' heads together, work out some kind of weapons and finance deal with Western Europe and Ukraine and impose massive sanctions on Russia. Then let Ukraine get the job done.


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I posted earlier about a NATO country and their actual readiness
It just happened to be the UK, I wasn't looking, it just popped up that day on one of my feeds

That day it was estimated that the UK could field 25 Battle Ready Challenger II tanks another 50 within 60 days IIRC

Please tell me again what Western EU is going to do ???

You all are posting old outdated info, I for one can't take you seriously unless you at least TRY get better sources
There are several new articles about why the sanctions were not only a failure but actually were helping Russia. New sanctions will probably not have much effect either


The EU has had 3+ freaking years to get into gear, you haven't done so, only a very few countries have realized that Putin doesn't fear NATO
See above about Germany saying Trump is right about 5%

Please stop saying the EU is going to help when only 4 EU countries are above 3% the UK is barely above 2%

The threat of war is on YOUR doorstep and you still ain't getting ready, no wonder Putin isn't listening, that is on YOU not Trump

Trump warned NATO in 2017 to get it together...


ps: Why would you bring up the WWII debt ??? you take out a loan you pay right ???
You join NATO and agree to the cost you pay RIGHT ???
I am asking because it has been suggested here by a few that the US should just be the piggy bank you all can keep tapping