I'm a Republican but vote Democrat when I think it makes sense, so I'm more or less independent, so that's my vantage point. But I can't believe Clinton is STILL trying to steal Obama's thunder. I find it amusing because it helps my party, but I'm just dumbfounded that she has given up now but is still talking like she won, rather than being gracious and congratulating Obama and marvelling at the historic nature of his WIN rather than the hisotric nature of her LOSS. Being close doesn't mean anything - just ask Al Gore [and all of us that have had to live through eight years of Bush Jr. - if only we'd had eight years of Bush Sr. instead, but I digress].

I also suspect this is as much a character flaw as it is tenaciousness - she just can't accept that she lost and that it's not her show anymore. And I really really hope he doesn't pick her as VP or he'll be dealing with this all campaign [there's the independent in me - the Republican in me hopes she keeps shooting her mouth off and scaring liberals into the arms of McCain].

Does anyone understand what Clinton is doing? Anyone see some useful agenda there that I'm missing in just seeing a really arrogant bad loser unable to give the winner his well earned props?

And by the way, why do we call Clinton a Democrat when she doesn't want to honor the democratic process [that's a joke reference to the America thread - please don't answer that].