Thread: Knives, rights, etc.

Originally Posted by metalhead

i am 24 annd there has not been a single day in my life since the age of 9 that i have not had a knife in my pocket. its perfectly normal. and alot better than everyone walking around with guns tucked into their pants where ever they go. now that just makes no sense at all to me

I suppose normality is a matter of what you are used to... living where I do, just about every man woman and child over a certain age usually has a pocket knife. seeing the clip on the back pocket is as common or more than seeing a 2-1/2" ring worn into the other back pocket

but the same is true for guns. I can honestly say I don't know ANYone local to me (apart from kids) who doesn't own a firearm, and about half the people I know have CHLs and carry on a regular basis. up until I accepted my current job (defense industry; I work in a secure facility, so no guns ) I carried a .45 to work, to the grocery store, everywhere. I wouldn't leave it on the table by the door any more than I would leave my keys or my cell phone. IRL, I can't think of a single person who would be surprised by this, or think anything of it. it's just normal here. I'm sort of surprised that it's so much different where you are, given the proximity, but you learn new things every day.

Originally Posted by Silver

My parents only smacked me a few times when I was small, mostly it was being sent to sit on the stairs, no toys. As I got older it was no TV/Atari and then finally being grounded, which included no phone calls either! At times I hated my parents because of how strict they were but you appreciate it when you get older and realise it was for your own good.

My parents never smacked me (as far as I remember). Since our mom was always around, she doled out the punishments usually, and she personalized them for each of us.

For example for my sister it was spending the day in her room without communication. Being the socially apt person she is, it drove her nuts.
For me, it was writing lines (y'know: I shall not commit whatever offense it was) x 500 or so. I absolutely hated doing that (still hate writing to this day). Otoh spending a day in my room was not a punishment because I don't mind not having other people around.

Failure to comply would earn going to bed without dinner, or spending the day without lunch or snacks.
I have to admit, as punishments they were all very effective, and they gave us ample time to reflect on what we'd done.

Originally Posted by Silver

I hope I'm included in that offer!! I'll bring my blades too.

Well of course you are! Apparently my speech is a little old fashioned as I used the term "Men" to mean anyone! You know today the politically correct way would be to say "Men and Women", or "Humankind" instead of "Mankind"!

Originally Posted by JMS

Well of course you are! Apparently my speech is a little old fashioned as I used the term "Men" to mean anyone! You know today the politically correct way would be to say "Men and Women", or "Humankind" instead of "Mankind"!

Well PC is a load of bally oaks. We try to be gents here do we not?

I'm not sure if the PD are still doing it over here, but a few years back they held "Knife Amnesties" where you could take any unwanted blades to the local nick where they would happily dispose of them for you in an attempt to cut down on knife related crimes.

They would generally run them for anything from a week to a month depending on the response they got. The thing I can't stop thinking about in all of this is, ok 17 reported dead from knife related incidents but how many more were the Press kept out of? In fact I would go so far to say that if the press hadn't found out the information would have been witheld.

The Government likes to fiddle it's crime figures, this I know first hand from working as a Civilian Support Officer for a local PD. Sticking my head on the chopping block here, I used to input Crime Reports and if we were getting towards the monthly targets for crimes (eg - drugs/muggings/robberys and so on), we were told by the Inspector NOT to process the reports onto the computer!! "Change the date to next month" happened quite a bit and why? So the figures would look good on the Constabulary League Table. Which would then reflect the "bang up job" the Government were doing on reducing Crime.

I fear we are bearing witness to the De-evolution of our species Gentlemen, straight away I could think of 20 people who I would nominate for a Darwin Award - Cleaning up the Gene Pool one dumb ass at a time, starting with Gordon Brown!!!!

I'd never heard of a knife buyout before.

Over here many communities have had gun buy outs where the govt pays you to turn in your guns. The interesting thing is that they often find that the majoity of the guns turned in are completely unfunctional.

I wonder how many broken knives they got.

Originally Posted by Wildtim

I'd never heard of a knife buyout before.

Over here many communities have had gun buy outs where the govt pays you to turn in your guns. The interesting thing is that they often find that the majoity of the guns turned in are completely unfunctional.

I wonder how many broken knives they got.

that, plus the amount they usually offer in such instances is completely insulting to anyone but the owners of utter crap. I read about one such buy back in Cali a couple years ago and it was like a hundred bucks for a pistol, 200 for a long gun. i mean, how could you resist such an offer? nearly 10% the value of a decent weapon, who would turn it down

Originally Posted by Wildtim

I'd never heard of a knife buyout before.

Funnily enough, neither have I! They do not pay you a brass fart for any blade handed in. They expect you to do it out of your wish to live in a safer community. There were gun amnesties after the Dunblane school shootings & further back, Hungerford. The weapons handed in were mostly old or those about to be outlawed. Like anything more automated than a double barrel shotgun. You can forget about semi or full autos. Gun ownership in this country is a very small club. Really, only cops the military & farmers have them. Oh & gun clubs

Unless they are junk, why turn in your guns? Especially if they are to be outlawed? That would be when you need them the most!

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

Unless they are junk, why turn in your guns? Especially if they are to be outlawed? That would be when you need them the most!

Exactly what I was thinking.

Briton: Proof that when you outlaw guns the outlaws still have them.