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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickelking View Post
    as a geek I can't wait until 9/10 to see what we learn, but a lot of folks are saying we shouldn't meddle with this kind of stuff. Opinions?
    Sorry, but apparently we won't be learning anything today. Today they're just testing the beams. The particle colliding will happen later. Then it's happy doomsday!

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    The idea is that the existence of the higgs boson implies certain measurable behavior if 2 particle beams collide at ludicrous speed. If they can make that collision, they can detect the scatter patterns and determine if that is in accordance with the predictions of the higgs boson existence.

    The interesting is apparently that 2 belgian scientists predicted the higgs boson before higgs. even higgs always admitted this. but his name was published first so it got his name.

    The really exciting thing is that people are actually talking on the radio and in the newspaper about the experiments and the particles. the things you hear are completely wrong (like, black holes are the size of a marble), but it is good to hear people talking about particle physics anyway.
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    Btw, the first collisions will be at 1/2 of the existing collider. There's a lot of equipment to finetune and calibrate etc. It will be some time before they will be up to the levels at which the higgs boson can possibly be detected.

    And if we all disappear in a giant flush... well.. it was nice knowing you guys. well, most of you
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    I heard that if this succeeds, then they can go ahead with their plans to build a death star
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    The idea is that the existence of the higgs boson implies certain measurable behavior if 2 particle beams collide at ludicrous speed. If they can make that collision, they can detect the scatter patterns and determine if that is in accordance with the predictions of the higgs boson existence.

    The interesting is apparently that 2 belgian scientists predicted the higgs boson before higgs. even higgs always admitted this. but his name was published first so it got his name.

    The really exciting thing is that people are actually talking on the radio and in the newspaper about the experiments and the particles. the things you hear are completely wrong (like, black holes are the size of a marble), but it is good to hear people talking about particle physics anyway.

    Maybe black holes are the size of a marble?

    Ever measure one?

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    I dont know what all the fuss is about.I built one of these in 1985(mine accelerated particles to 117% light speed).I duplicated the big bang a couple of times,then got bored with it,and sold it for scrap.Ive been rewriting Einstine's work to correct the errors in his no faster than light theories.Everthing important happens in Texas first.I saved a big box of Higgs bosons,Ill send some to anybody who wants some ,you just pay the postage Best Regards Gary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Maybe black holes are the size of a marble?

    Ever measure one?
    The actual black holes in the universe vary in size, there's even a theory that the entire part of the uiverse that can't be seen by us (the combined speed of divergence is greater than the speed of light) is a colossal black hole (or something like that).

    But black holes in general do not have a fixed size, the size (and rate that they decay) is dependent on the amount of mass they have, which makes the ones that will occur in the LHC negligible.

    To quote Holli4pirating in the above post: " It is also worth mentioning that black holes are formed in our atmosphere by high energy particles colliding with the atmosphere, though those black holes don't seem to receive much press."

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    You've already sent me a couple Gary, remember? I PMed you next month, and you shipped them off next year. They arrived yesterday.

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    Warning from the future, don't take your kids to see the LHC! Mine are already grown now and asking for 18 years' worth of childhood expenses that they missed out on

    Don't let the LHC go online last month - I mean, today
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