Thread: Palin's Choice for VP

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

If you want a friend in Washington, you'd better get a dog. Harry Truman

I thought you were in Kansas City, where everything's up-to-date. Or are you in Clay County? We all know what they're like.

j

Originally Posted by Nord Jim

I thought you were in Kansas City, where everything's up-to-date. Or are you in Clay County? We all know what they're like.

j

Why? Are you in Langley working the satellites? Jackson county if you must know.(maybe)

Originally Posted by loueedacat

I don't actually think it's a subtle point, but you are still missing it. I said they are equally inexperienced - that has nothing to do with vetting of their IDEAS in the primaries. Whatever his ideas are, he is inexperienced, and if you don't think Palin is experienced enough, you shouldn't be voting Obama.

If you are voting Obama because you know his ideas (hope, change, hope, change) and don't want to vote McCain because you are not versed in his VP's ideas, that's your prerogative.........but on inexperience, having your ideas vetted in the primaries isn't experience.

And handlers....you think Obama isn't being handled? Yes he is (and expertly so I might add).

While It seems you want to pick a fight with the use of "you", but hey that's how you shut people up right the Rove way attack them personally.

Why is it the answer to every question asked about Sarah Palin is she has more experience than Obama, even when the question has nothing to do with experience?

There have been people who have brought up experience, but it hasn't came from the Obama campaign diectly, for one they'd be stupid to because he has very little experience too. Pretending that she has experience is just right wing spin, between the pair neither of them do.

My point was the issues for which she has yet to express anything on any issue.

I'm open I want to hear from her own mouth what she actually knows, and thinks.

Here's my strikes against her so far;

1. Supports teaching Creationism in school, I do give credit that she hasn't pushed the issue since being elected, but she believes it none the less.
2. Pro-life
3. She actually said that she didn't know what a Vice President does.
4. Due to Mc Cain's age and health issues odds have it that she would be president, I don't even think anyone in the Republican party would have considered running her as president candidate.

I'm with Hutch -- that pretty much says it. McCain himself, though, is the main issue.

1. He caved on taxation.
2. He caved on immigration
3. He caved on torture.
4. He's wrong on energy.
5. He's wrong on reproductive freedom.
6. He's wrong on the environment.

Add to that a really serious concern: He has an extensive record as a hothead. When someone crosses him, he simply loses it. Now, I do feel bad saying that, as it may result from post-traumatic stress, which he incurred on my behalf, but the truth is, when the going gets tough, McCain goes ballistic.

Sorry.

j

Don't forget stem cell research.

My favorite statement from many at the GOP Convention paraphrased "She's just a normal person, just like us".

Personally I want the smartest, most articulate person to be the leader of my country, not the lowest common denominator, if they want someone just like them why not vote for the variety store owner down the street or the school crossing guard.

Originally Posted by Hutch

Don't forget stem cell research.

My favorite statement from many at the GOP Convention paraphrased "She's just a normal person, just like us".

Personally I want the smartest, most articulate person to be the leader of my country, not the lowest common denominator, if they want someone just like them why not vote for the variety store owner down the street or the school crossing guard.

I think it's the "too clever by half" principle. People want smart leaders, but are also a bit afraid of them, that they don't share our values and will do something terrible.

It's another reason I like Obama. I've read his books and believe that he shares my values. It's a big deal for me.

j

Originally Posted by Hutch

Don't forget stem cell research.

My favorite statement from many at the GOP Convention paraphrased "She's just a normal person, just like us".

Personally I want the smartest, most articulate person to be the leader of my country, not the lowest common denominator, if they want someone just like them why not vote for the variety store owner down the street or the school crossing guard.

Hi Hutch,
That 'normal person' thing is part of the pitch. It's one of the ideas the Republican party was told to get excited about. Mrs Palin being a 'maverick' was another, etc. All part of the story being laid out. Yeah, turns out being just like a normal person is a GOOD thing when it comes to a Republican VP pick. Experience? Whoever said anything about experience being important in making that selection?
Yep, it's a new story that's already been embraced. Seems like those voters got exactly who they wanted.........unless they're told otherwise of course.
Martin

Originally Posted by Hutch

Don't forget stem cell research.

My favorite statement from many at the GOP Convention paraphrased "She's just a normal person, just like us".

Personally I want the smartest, most articulate person to be the leader of my country, not the lowest common denominator, if they want someone just like them why not vote for the variety store owner down the street or the school crossing guard.

Being articulate is certainly a great plus, but book-smarts never made great leaders on its own. An effective leader can be "smart" in many different ways.

Jordan

Thanks for pointing that out, not sure where I said "book smart" I believe I said the smartest person, but hey why get confused with the facts.

You didn't say you said book-smarts and I'm not saying you meant that. I just wanted to draw the distinction as I think many read "smart" and see it as meaning "intellectual". No biggie, just throwing that out there.

Jordan